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    Default Virtualbox - where do you install it from?

    Hi! Just wanted to ask those of you who uses Virtualbox whether there is any benefit in installing it from the OpenSuse repo (software.opensuse.org: Download openSUSE 12.1) as opposed to installing it from the Virtualbox site? As far as I understand, the dedicated Virtualbox site usually offers the latest version of Virtualbox, which may have not yet found its way in the OpenSuse repository. Does Virtualbox installed from the repo update automatically?
    Which way of installation do you use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by azangru View Post
    Hi! Just wanted to ask those of you who uses Virtualbox whether there is any benefit in installing it from the OpenSuse repo (software.opensuse.org: Download openSUSE 12.1) as opposed to installing it from the Virtualbox site? As far as I understand, the dedicated Virtualbox site usually offers the latest version of Virtualbox, which may have not yet found its way in the OpenSuse repository. Does Virtualbox installed from the repo update automatically?
    Which way of installation do you use?

    http://forums.opensuse.org/english/g...ml#post2410884
    http://forums.opensuse.org/english/g...ml#post2407566

    * It installs VirtualBox from Oracle 11.4 repo - which works fine under 12.1

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    I am confused. Why exactly would one want to run vboxlive? To install VirtualBox and JRE? What if I already have JRE installed (because LibreOffice asked for it)?

    I am mostly pondering over all those options that the software.opensuse.org site offers vs the installer on the Oracle's Virtualbox site. Wondering whether there is any reason in choosing one package over the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azangru View Post
    I am confused. Why exactly would one want to run vboxlive? To install VirtualBox and JRE? What if I already have JRE installed (because LibreOffice asked for it)?
    I don't want anything. I answered to your question: Which way of installation do you use?

    A script is a way to execute several commands in a single step - and in the right order. The original purpose of vboxlive was not to install VirtualBox but, since it uses VirtualBox, it had to provide a response if VirtualBox was not install: either display an error message or offer to install it. Finally I added an option to just install VirtualBox.

    If you want to install Oracle VirtualBox "manually", here's what you should do - in this order:

    • make sure you have the latest kernel *
    • install kernel sources, gcc and make
    • install Oracle 11.4 repo (even in 12.1)
    • install VirtualBox (the kernel module will be compiled at this stage - provided the kernel sources are installed)
    • add yourself to the vboxuers group.


    Or run vboxlive --install.

    And to answer your other question, the PUEL version (Oracle version) is a little bit better - for a couple things such as USB support - although I'm not 100% sure that it is still true.

    * a common mistake ist to install the kernel sources without updating the kernel. Then the kernel sources don't match the kernel and the VirtualBox kernel module doesn't compile.

    Nothing to do with JRE.

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    Default Re: Virtualbox - where do you install it from?

    use the oracle version from official website
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    Default Re: Virtualbox - where do you install it from?

    On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:36:03 +0000, azangru wrote:

    > Which way of installation do you use?


    I installed it from the community virtualbox repository - that's the
    latest version, and is updated. The only additional thing to install
    then is the extensions for USB support.

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    Default Re: Virtualbox - where do you install it from?

    I get it direct from the Oracle repo. The basic package is open source now, there is no PUEL restriction on it. The PUEL bits have been moved to an extension pack. It's a pity VRDP support is in that, it could have been useful for an install I did for a client, but I can live with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ken_yap View Post
    The basic package is open source now, there is no PUEL restriction on it. The PUEL bits have been moved to an extension pack.
    I have been wondering about that.

    @azangru
    I forgot to say that the vboxlive method also installs the extension pack (that you need for USB support).
    Installing from Oracle repo is also better than downloading the package from Oracle website, because if you install it from the repo, it will be updated whenever there are updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by please_try_again View Post
    I don't want anything. I answered to your question: Which way of installation do you use?
    Oh, right.

    Quote Originally Posted by please_try_again View Post
    If you want to install Oracle VirtualBox "manually", here's what you should do - in this order:

    • make sure you have the latest kernel *
    • install kernel sources, gcc and make
    • install Oracle 11.4 repo (even in 12.1)
    • install VirtualBox (the kernel module will be compiled at this stage - provided the kernel sources are installed)
    • add yourself to the vboxuers group.


    Or run vboxlive --install.
    I see. This looks really convincing, I'll give your script a try. Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by please_try_again View Post
    * a common mistake ist to install the kernel sources without updating the kernel. Then the kernel sources don't match the kernel and the VirtualBox kernel module doesn't compile.
    Yeah, I remember making this mistake ;-) Luckily, the recent version of VirtualBox that I used suggested the cause of the error and the way to solve it. But it's much better if this is done automatically.

    Thank you all for your answers! Cheers to the forum!

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    Default Re: Virtualbox - where do you install it from?

    azangru wrote:

    >
    > please_try_again;2413262 Wrote:
    >> I don't want anything. I answered to your question:

    Which way of
    >> installation do you use?

    >
    > Oh, right.
    >
    > please_try_again;2413262 Wrote:
    >> If you want to install Oracle VirtualBox "manually",

    here's what you
    >> should do - in this order:
    >>
    >> > > >

    > - make sure you have the latest kernel *
    > - install kernel sources, gcc and make
    > - install Oracle 11.4 repo (even in 12.1)
    > - install VirtualBox (the kernel module will be

    compiled at this
    > > stage - provided the kernel sources are

    installed)
    > - add yourself to the vboxuers group.
    > -
    > > > >

    >>
    >> Or run *vboxlive --install*.

    >
    > I see. This looks really convincing, I'll give your

    script a try.
    > Thanks!
    >
    > please_try_again;2413262 Wrote:
    >> * a common mistake ist to install the kernel sources

    without updating
    >> the kernel. Then the kernel sources don't match the

    kernel and the
    >> VirtualBox kernel module doesn't compile.

    >
    > Yeah, I remember making this mistake ;-) Luckily, the

    recent version of
    > VirtualBox that I used suggested the cause of the

    error and the way to
    > solve it. But it's much better if this is done

    automatically.
    >
    > Thank you all for your answers! Cheers to the forum!
    >
    >

    I installed the Oracle version yesterday on my 12.1
    release system. (also have it installed on 11.4
    system). I downloaded the rpm from oracle to local
    disk, also the extension pack. Then installed
    VirtualBox from Yast, and then installed the extension
    pac. Please remember to add your user to the vboxusers
    group or it will not start.

    I Install XP and then install Guest Additions. So far I
    have only run into one problem with my PS2 to USB
    Converter (CHESSEN PS2 to USB Converter). If I enable
    it in setting, the install of XP hangs, keyboard and
    mouse dead. If I leave it disabled, everything works.

    I thought this was fixed in 11.4 version but I need to
    go back and look at bug report and test on latest 11.4.

    I've used the Oracle version for a long time because of
    the past usb issues mention earlier in this thread. i
    think that is a think of the past but have not tried
    openSUSE version yet.

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