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    Default Can I reverse the upgrade

    If I reinstall SUSE 11.4 will it go back to how it was? eg do an upgrade with the 11.4 dvd? So far Kmail/Kontact are messed up and non functioning, I've salvaged my address book and emails, but I can't use them. Amarok is not working, and I'm not sure what else isn't working at this time. My 11.4, everything worked fine, I don't recall going through all this on the 11.4 upgrade. I love my linux, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to repair these problems. I'm sure they will get things straightened out, but for now I need a reliable functioning system. I have used linux for a few years now and I've always been able to do small fixes with the help I've found on the forums and responses I would get to my questions here. I think this is way beyond my capabilities right now. I haven't updated my wifes computer or the laptop yet, I'll wait until I see that the issues with 12.1 are addressed.

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    I'm thinking of going bak also, very buggy release. I have never seen such poor kde integration, that has always the strength of Osuse. Devs must headed in a different direction.

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    Will Honea NNTP User

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    shockman wrote:

    >
    > If I reinstall SUSE 11.4 will it go back to how it was? eg do an upgrade
    > with the 11.4 dvd? So far Kmail/Kontact are messed up and non
    > functioning, I've salvaged my address book and emails, but I can't use
    > them. Amarok is not working, and I'm not sure what else isn't working at
    > this time. My 11.4, everything worked fine, I don't recall going through
    > all this on the 11.4 upgrade. I love my linux, but I'm not knowledgeable
    > enough to repair these problems. I'm sure they will get things
    > straightened out, but for now I need a reliable functioning system. I
    > have used linux for a few years now and I've always been able to do
    > small fixes with the help I've found on the forums and responses I would
    > get to my questions here. I think this is way beyond my capabilities
    > right now. I haven't updated my wifes computer or the laptop yet, I'll
    > wait until I see that the issues with 12.1 are addressed.


    I think that restoring from the backups everyone emphasized is the only
    really good way - likely faster and a whole lot more reliable. Otherwise,
    you're facing things like config files that exist and therefore don't get
    updated like a first run, etc.

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    On 2011-11-21 01:26, shockman wrote:
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    > If I reinstall SUSE 11.4 will it go back to how it was? eg do an upgrade
    > with the 11.4 dvd? So far Kmail/Kontact are messed up and non


    The best thing is to restore the backup you always do before a dangerous
    operation such as an upgrade >:-)

    Hold on, do I hear you didn't do a backup? Impossible...!


    Well, you can do the reverse zypper dup, but results will not be good.

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    On 11/21/2011 01:26 AM, shockman wrote:
    > If I reinstall SUSE 11.4 will it go back to how it was? eg do an upgrade
    > with the 11.4 dvd?


    the upgrade built into the openSUSE 11.4 DVD is _only_ for use from 11.3
    to 11.4!

    i'm just about positive you will be unhappy with the results of trying
    to do the DVD upgrade (or *downgrade*!) from 12.1 to 11.4..

    best to restore from your backup..

    alternatively i'd guess the next best would be to save off all your data
    to a safe (off machine) place and then do a fresh format and install of
    11.4, then rebuild your system as you want it (adding and setting up the
    applications you want) and rejoining the saved data...

    it is a lot of work--which is why backup is so emphasized in the
    upgrade how-tos:

    http://tinyurl.com/35p966c
    http://tinyurl.com/6kvoflv

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    Ty for the info. Although I didn't make a backup per say, we store all our photos and documents on a separate storage drive and an external drive. The only thing that was in danger was my email, but I did find and salvage those files too. I can open the emails one at a time, so I'm pretty sure they are there still. Its just a hassle to go through the setup again. I've already spent a lot of time, that is wasted time now, on the upgrade to 12.1 and ended up with a broken system.
    This morning I tried to re download 12.1 thinking to make a fresh copy, but it appears the server is not working right now, (8am my time Vancouver Canada) Last night I tried to install a copy of fedora but it appears that the dvd drive is not working properly now, I guess all the activity this weekend wore it out...
    I still have a couple of functioning boxes, including a windows7 working so I'll survive. I have the day off, so I'll still be messing with this probably the rest of the day, more experiments, and another learning curve.

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    On 11/21/2011 05:46 PM, shockman wrote:
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    > I can open the emails one at a time, so I'm
    > pretty sure they are there still.


    1. attention: kmail2 is BROKEN... the kde folks are aware of it and
    working to fix it....

    > This morning I tried to re download 12.1 thinking to make a fresh copy,
    > but it appears the server is not working right now,


    2. info for next time: no need to re-download by "guessing" maybe you
    have a bad download, instead just _check_ it....find on the download
    page <http://software.opensuse.org/> the link to "Download Help"
    <http://en.opensuse.org/SDBownload_help> where you can learn how to
    check the downloaded image (iso) look for "checksums"

    and, once you have burned the disk, you can boot from it and check that
    the install disk is perfect, this way: http://tinyurl.com/3qde66h


    > so I'll still be messing
    > with this probably the rest of the day, more experiments, and another
    > learning curve.


    i would advise less "messing" and "experiments" and more reading...that
    is, the kmail failure has been talked about for weeks (at least) maybe
    months....see the beta forum <http://tinyurl.com/7y6mxvt>

    so, if i were you i'd do what i'm doing: enjoying a nice predictable
    11.4 and waiting for the dust to settle over the early
    adopters...because no amount of experimenting or downloading is gonna
    fix kmail2 today...

    ymmv

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    OK Denver D, I get it ha-ha. Back to 11.4, and some reading. I'll be checking out the info you told me, I didn't know that I could do that, in regards to checking the image. The learning curve has started again... Thanks for the help and info.

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    >
    > Thanks


    welcome, and Have a lot of fun (learning!! [you won't soon be bored])

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    Just out of curiosity, why would they release a version that’s not quite ready. New peeps that are migrating, may be scared off if by these issues. I'm just stubborn... and have a dislike for $windows$ so I hang in there, lol.
    Like most others I really respect the peeps that do this work for open source and open suse, and wish I knew more about it so I could contribute. Since going to Linux, I've never looked back or regretted it one iota.
    My 11.4 is back on and working great... mail too.. Again ty for the info, its very much appreciated by users like myself.

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