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    Default Kaffeine and openSuSE 12.1

    Hi,

    First some specs:

    System: "HP Pavilion p7-1225"
    OS: openSuSE 12.1 x86_32
    TV card: "Hauppauge WinTV-1800"
    Video card: "AMD Radeon 6550D"
    Sound card "HDA Intel compatible"

    Well.... After a long while, I was finally able to get Kaffeine digital TV working. Problem is, when I "scan channels" (within Kaffeine) it detects a bunch of "#0" channels, several dozen of them, and then after those, it detects "local" digital stations, about 5 or 6 of them. I've tried "w_scan", but it craps out on me and says, "ERROR: Sorry - i couldn't get any working frequency/transponder Nothing to scan!!"
    ---

    w_scan -fa -k > channels.dvb
    w_scan version 20120605 (compiled for DVB API 5.3)
    using settings for UNITED STATES
    ATSC
    VSB US/CA, DVB-T TW
    scan type TERRCABLE_ATSC, channellist 1
    output format kaffeine channels.dvb
    WARNING: could not guess your codepage. Falling back to 'UTF-8'
    output charset 'UTF-8', use -C <charset> to override
    Info: using DVB adapter auto detection.
    /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 -> TERRCABLE_ATSC "Samsung S5H1409 QAM/8VSB Frontend": good :-)
    Using TERRCABLE_ATSC frontend (adapter /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0)
    -_-_-_-_ Getting frontend capabilities-_-_-_-_
    Using DVB API 5.3
    frontend 'Samsung S5H1409 QAM/8VSB Frontend' supports
    INVERSION_AUTO
    8VSB
    QAM_64
    QAM_256
    FREQ (54.00MHz ... 858.00MHz)
    -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
    57000: 8VSB(time: 00:00)
    63000: 8VSB(time: 00:02)
    69000: 8VSB(time: 00:05)
    79000: 8VSB(time: 00:07)
    85000: 8VSB(time: 00:10)
    177000: 8VSB(time: 00:12)
    183000: 8VSB(time: 00:15)
    189000: 8VSB(time: 00:17)
    195000: 8VSB(time: 00:20)
    201000: 8VSB(time: 00:22)
    207000: 8VSB(time: 00:25)
    213000: 8VSB(time: 00:27)
    473000: 8VSB(time: 00:30)
    479000: 8VSB(time: 00:32)
    485000: 8VSB(time: 00:35)
    491000: 8VSB(time: 00:37)
    497000: 8VSB(time: 00:40)
    503000: 8VSB(time: 00:42)
    509000: 8VSB(time: 00:45)
    515000: 8VSB(time: 00:47)
    521000: 8VSB(time: 00:50)
    527000: 8VSB(time: 00:52)
    533000: 8VSB(time: 00:55)
    539000: 8VSB(time: 00:57)
    545000: 8VSB(time: 01:00)
    551000: 8VSB(time: 01:02)
    557000: 8VSB(time: 01:05)
    563000: 8VSB(time: 01:08)
    569000: 8VSB(time: 01:10)
    575000: 8VSB(time: 01:13)
    581000: 8VSB(time: 01:15)
    587000: 8VSB(time: 01:18)
    593000: 8VSB(time: 01:20)
    599000: 8VSB(time: 01:23)
    605000: 8VSB(time: 01:25)
    611000: 8VSB(time: 01:28)
    617000: 8VSB(time: 01:30)
    623000: 8VSB(time: 01:33)
    629000: 8VSB(time: 01:35)
    635000: 8VSB(time: 01:38)
    641000: 8VSB(time: 01:40)
    647000: 8VSB(time: 01:43)
    653000: 8VSB(time: 01:45)
    659000: 8VSB(time: 01:48)
    665000: 8VSB(time: 01:50)
    671000: 8VSB(time: 01:53)
    677000: 8VSB(time: 01:55)
    683000: 8VSB(time: 01:58)
    689000: 8VSB(time: 02:00)
    695000: 8VSB(time: 02:03)
    701000: 8VSB(time: 02:05)
    707000: 8VSB(time: 02:08)
    713000: 8VSB(time: 02:10)
    719000: 8VSB(time: 02:13)
    725000: 8VSB(time: 02:15)
    731000: 8VSB(time: 02:18)
    737000: 8VSB(time: 02:20)
    743000: 8VSB(time: 02:23)
    749000: 8VSB(time: 02:25)
    755000: 8VSB(time: 02:28)
    761000: 8VSB(time: 02:31)
    767000: 8VSB(time: 02:33)
    773000: 8VSB(time: 02:36)
    779000: 8VSB(time: 02:38)
    785000: 8VSB(time: 02:41)
    791000: 8VSB(time: 02:43)
    797000: 8VSB(time: 02:46)
    803000: 8VSB(time: 02:48)

    ERROR: Sorry - i couldn't get any working frequency/transponder
    Nothing to scan!!

    ----death:~ # lsmod
    Module Size Used by
    fglrx 2385080 170
    af_packet 26605 0
    ip6t_LOG 12847 8
    xt_tcpudp 12788 24
    xt_pkttype 12456 3
    ipt_LOG 12880 8
    xt_limit 12541 16
    mt2131 13201 1
    s5h1409 18386 1
    rfcomm 66511 4
    bnep 19020 2
    vboxpci 27050 0
    vboxnetadp 13328 0
    vboxnetflt 27588 0
    ip6t_REJECT 12809 3
    nf_conntrack_ipv6 13936 3
    nf_defrag_ipv6 18017 1 nf_conntrack_ipv6
    ip6table_raw 12603 1
    vboxdrv 269262 3 vboxpci,vboxnetadp,vboxnetflt
    xt_NOTRACK 12456 4
    ipt_REJECT 12512 3
    iptable_raw 12598 1
    iptable_filter 12706 1
    ip6table_mangle 12652 0
    nf_conntrack_netbios_ns 12585 0
    nf_conntrack_broadcast 12541 1 nf_conntrack_netbios_ns
    nf_conntrack_ipv4 14319 3
    nf_defrag_ipv4 12649 1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
    ip_tables 18302 2 iptable_raw,iptable_filter
    cpufreq_conservative 13525 0
    xt_conntrack 12664 6
    nf_conntrack 79552 6 nf_conntrack_ipv6,xt_NOTRACK,nf_conntrack_netbios_ns,nf_conntrack_broadcast,nf_conntrack_ipv4,xt_conntrack
    cpufreq_userspace 12973 0
    cpufreq_powersave 12554 0
    ip6table_filter 12711 1
    powernow_k8 28529 0
    ip6_tables 18432 4 ip6t_LOG,ip6table_raw,ip6table_mangle,ip6table_filter
    x_tables 26199 16 ip6t_LOG,xt_tcpudp,xt_pkttype,ipt_LOG,xt_limit,ip6t_REJECT,ip6table_raw,xt_NOTRACK,ipt_REJECT,iptable_raw,iptable_filter,ip6table_mangle,ip_tables,xt_conntrack,ip6table_filter,ip6_tables
    microcode 22828 0
    tda18271 61692 1
    snd_seq_dummy 12686 0
    snd_seq_oss 45725 0
    snd_seq_midi_event 14475 1 snd_seq_oss
    snd_seq 63882 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
    snd_seq_device 14172 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
    snd_pcm_oss 57749 1
    snd_mixer_oss 22257 1 snd_pcm_oss
    mperf 12603 1 powernow_k8
    tda8290 22216 1
    tuner 26836 1
    ir_lirc_codec 12770 0
    lirc_dev 19354 1 ir_lirc_codec
    ir_mce_kbd_decoder 12854 0
    ir_sony_decoder 12493 0
    cx25840 52881 1
    ir_jvc_decoder 12490 0
    usblp 17885 0
    ir_rc6_decoder 12490 0
    bcma 24647 0
    ir_rc5_decoder 12490 0
    ir_nec_decoder 12490 0
    cx23885 139347 0
    rc_core 29893 8 ir_lirc_codec,ir_mce_kbd_decoder,ir_sony_decoder,ir_jvc_decoder,ir_rc6_decoder,ir_rc5_decoder,ir_nec_decoder,cx23885
    arc4 12473 2
    altera_stapl 34436 1 cx23885
    sg 35770 0
    cx2341x 23643 1 cx23885
    videobuf_dma_sg 18786 1 cx23885
    videobuf_dvb 13867 1 cx23885
    videobuf_core 29505 3 cx23885,videobuf_dma_sg,videobuf_dvb
    v4l2_common 15793 4 tuner,cx25840,cx23885,cx2341x
    videodev 94691 5 tuner,cx25840,cx23885,cx2341x,v4l2_common
    altera_ci 19025 1 cx23885
    dvb_core 98922 3 cx23885,videobuf_dvb,altera_ci
    btcx_risc 13400 1 cx23885
    sr_mod 22048 0
    cdrom 46732 1 sr_mod
    tveeprom 17009 1 cx23885
    brcmsmac 598651 0
    mac80211 298487 1 brcmsmac
    brcmutil 17120 1 brcmsmac
    edd 14172 0
    r8169 55684 0
    usb_storage 48399 1
    joydev 17393 0
    sdhci_pci 13864 0
    sdhci 32185 1 sdhci_pci
    uas 17699 0
    usbhid 51576 0
    hid 81463 1 usbhid
    mmc_core 98891 1 sdhci
    i2c_piix4 13516 0
    ecb 12751 1
    cfg80211 183466 2 brcmsmac,mac80211
    btusb 19128 2
    i2c_core 34010 11 mt2131,s5h1409,tda18271,tda8290,tuner,cx25840,cx23885,v4l2_common,videodev,tveeprom,i2c_piix4
    bluetooth 239247 23 rfcomm,bnep,btusb
    rfkill 24962 3 cfg80211,bluetooth
    k10temp 12990 0
    pcspkr 12614 0
    button 13661 1 fglrx
    snd_hda_codec_realtek 261744 1
    snd_hda_intel 32497 1
    snd_hda_codec 105718 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
    snd_hwdep 13276 1 snd_hda_codec
    snd_pcm 97316 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
    snd_timer 28930 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
    snd 69952 12 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer
    soundcore 14635 2 snd
    snd_page_alloc 14108 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
    autofs4 37842 2
    ohci_hcd 36590 0
    ehci_hcd 60362 0
    usbcore 190567 9 usblp,usb_storage,uas,usbhid,btusb,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd
    rtc_cmos 18167 0
    processor 43803 5 powernow_k8
    thermal_sys 20200 1 processor
    hwmon 12936 2 k10temp,thermal_sys
    ahci 25620 2
    libahci 30095 1 ahci
    libata 205032 2 ahci,libahci
    ---
    death:~ # l /dev/dvb/adapter0/
    total 0
    drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 120 Jul 26 11:17 ./
    drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 60 Jul 26 11:17 ../
    crw-rw---- 1 root video 212, 1 Jul 26 11:17 demux0
    crw-rw---- 1 root video 212, 2 Jul 26 11:17 dvr0
    crw-rw---- 1 root video 212, 0 Jul 26 11:17 frontend0
    crw-rw---- 1 root video 212, 3 Jul 26 11:17 net0
    ---
    death:~ # l /dev/video*
    crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 Jul 26 12:00 /dev/video0
    crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 1 Jul 26 11:17 /dev/video1
    ---
    death:~ # l /dev/snd
    total 0
    drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 200 Jul 26 11:17 ./
    drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4340 Jul 26 11:19 ../
    drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 60 Jul 26 11:17 by-path/
    crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 6 Jul 26 11:17 controlC0
    crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 5 Jul 26 11:17 hwC0D0
    crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 4 Jul 27 02:29 pcmC0D0c
    crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 3 Jul 27 01:34 pcmC0D0p
    crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 2 Jul 26 11:17 pcmC0D2c
    crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 1 Jul 26 11:17 seq
    crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 33 Jul 26 11:17 timer
    ---


    Can anyone help me out?


    Much thanks,
    Joseph

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    Default Re: Kaffeine and openSuSE 12.1

    PLease, please, please, put computer text between CODE tags! http://forums.opensuse.org/english/i...ags-guide.html
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: Kaffeine and openSuSE 12.1

    Quote Originally Posted by ezdagor View Post
    Well.... After a long while, I was finally able to get Kaffeine digital TV working. Problem is, when I "scan channels" (within Kaffeine) it detects a bunch of "#0" channels, several dozen of them, and then after those, it detects "local" digital stations, about 5 or 6 of them
    You haven't stated what type of scan you are attempting, though it looks like it was for digital cable. The #0 channels would be the encrypted channels. Given you're receiving the local channels, I don't see anything wrong here.

    I've tried "w_scan", but it craps out on me and says, "ERROR: Sorry - i couldn't get any working frequency/transponder Nothing to scan!!"
    ---

    w_scan -fa -k > channels.dvb
    ...

    output format kaffeine channels.dvb
    ...
    57000: 8VSB(time: 00:00)
    ...ERROR: Sorry - i couldn't get any working frequency/transponder
    Nothing to scan!!
    I don't use w_scan, but:
    - it looks like you didn't specify the switch for the modulation type (you'd want -A1 for OTA, -A2 for cable, -A3 for both) in your commandline argument.
    - I think, but could be wrong, that w_scan's kaffeine channels format is for Kaffeine v3, and not the newer v4
    - it looks like w_scan defaulted to using a scan for OTA (as evidenced by the 8VSB modulation type listed in the output for each frequency it checked) ... I'm guessing (based on the info supplied about your kaffeine results) that you were attempting cable (in which case you'd want the app to be using QAM, not 8VSB) and have no antenna hooked up. Hence the no transponders found.

    lsmod
    long list of loaded modules not relevant to troubleshooting this problem

    death:~ # l /dev/dvb/adapter0/
    your kaffeine scan worked (i.e. the device is working), so this is irrelevant too

    death:~ # l /dev/video*
    irrelevant ... further, it only applies to analog ... which is not what you're after

    death:~ # l /dev/snd
    irrelevant to the matter

    Can anyone help me out?

    Much thanks,
    Joseph
    the above info should set you on the right course

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    Default Re: Kaffeine and openSuSE 12.1

    > the above info should set you on the right course


    Ok. Stupid question #1,000.... How do I view those encrypted channels? It must be possible.

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    Default Re: Kaffeine and openSuSE 12.1

    Quote Originally Posted by ezdagor View Post
    How do I view those encrypted channels? It must be possible.
    You can't with your present device. You can, to some extent, with a couple of the cablecard devices that can be run under Linux; see: CableCARD - MythTV Official Wiki ... I do not know which other applications would be able to interface with them.

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    Default Re: Kaffeine and openSuSE 12.1

    Actually, I do recall that MPlayer could be used with the Centon

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    Default Re: Kaffeine and openSuSE 12.1

    If I can't watch Digital TV on my computer, why do programs like Kaffeine exist? I don't get it... Am I missing something?

    BTW, I don't claim to be an expert.

    -Ezdagor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler_K View Post
    You haven't stated what type of scan you are attempting, though it looks like it was for digital cable. The #0 channels would be the encrypted channels. Given you're receiving the local channels, I don't see anything wrong here.

    I don't use w_scan, but:
    - it looks like you didn't specify the switch for the modulation type (you'd want -A1 for OTA, -A2 for cable, -A3 for both) in your commandline argument.
    - I think, but could be wrong, that w_scan's kaffeine channels format is for Kaffeine v3, and not the newer v4
    - it looks like w_scan defaulted to using a scan for OTA (as evidenced by the 8VSB modulation type listed in the output for each frequency it checked) ... I'm guessing (based on the info supplied about your kaffeine results) that you were attempting cable (in which case you'd want the app to be using QAM, not 8VSB) and have no antenna hooked up. Hence the no transponders found.

    long list of loaded modules not relevant to troubleshooting this problem

    your kaffeine scan worked (i.e. the device is working), so this is irrelevant too

    irrelevant ... further, it only applies to analog ... which is not what you're after

    irrelevant to the matter

    the above info should set you on the right course
    Nice user name
    Best regards,
    Greg

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    Default Re: Kaffeine and openSuSE 12.1

    Quote Originally Posted by ezdagor View Post
    If I can't watch Digital TV on my computer, why do programs like Kaffeine exist? I don't get it... Am I missing something?
    Well, Kaffeine is much more than just an app to watch DTV. But anyway, such viewing apps exist to watch the unencrypted content that is available, or in conjunction with hardware that is capable of decrypting an encrypted stream and which then passing the unencumbered stream off to the application.

    The same limitations exist whether were talking Windows, Mac, Linux, BSD....

    You can find plenty of information regarding these issues in dedicated forums such as Home Theater Computers

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    Quote Originally Posted by glistwan View Post
    Nice user name
    ? Sorry, I don't follow

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