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    Default Claws crawls in KDE

    I've been trying Claws as e-mailer but it is horrendously slow. It makes
    watching paint dry seem unbearably exciting. CPU goes up to 50% (one
    processor) at times but that's Xorg and was doing that before Claws was
    installed. Also, everything runs dead slow or stop with CPU at only
    10-20%. As soon as I closed down Claws, everything began whizzing along
    again.

    Anyone else tried Claws on KDE?

    I think I'll try installing a Gnome system and see what happens there.
    Makes some sort of sense to give Gnome yet another go as most of the
    software I use is primarily designed to run on that.


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    Default Re: Claws crawls in KDE

    Am 12.11.2011 20:34, schrieb Cloddy:
    > I've been trying Claws as e-mailer but it is horrendously slow. It makes
    > watching paint dry seem unbearably exciting. CPU goes up to 50% (one
    > processor) at times but that's Xorg and was doing that before Claws was
    > installed. Also, everything runs dead slow or stop with CPU at only
    > 10-20%. As soon as I closed down Claws, everything began whizzing along
    > again.
    >
    > Anyone else tried Claws on KDE?
    >

    Yes I tried claws just a few days ago since I decided to bypass kmail2
    and had a look which mail client will give me the best user experience
    and performance.
    To make a long story short: I could not see anything you describe above,
    it (claws) just was lightning fast with 3 imap mail accounts configured
    on the Eee PC in the footer (when I tested kde 4.6 was my kde version, I
    just upgraded kde after I found my new favorite mail client which is
    thunderbird 8).
    I am afraid you ran into an unrelated problem (unrelated to kde)
    specific for your setup.

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    Default Re: Claws crawls in KDE

    On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:49:28 +0000, Martin Helm wrote:

    > Am 12.11.2011 20:34, schrieb Cloddy:
    >> I've been trying Claws as e-mailer but it is horrendously slow. It
    >> makes watching paint dry seem unbearably exciting. CPU goes up to 50%
    >> (one processor) at times but that's Xorg and was doing that before
    >> Claws was installed. Also, everything runs dead slow or stop with CPU
    >> at only 10-20%. As soon as I closed down Claws, everything began
    >> whizzing along again.
    >>
    >> Anyone else tried Claws on KDE?
    >>

    > Yes I tried claws just a few days ago since I decided to bypass kmail2


    In my experience, you've made a wise choice!

    > To make a long story short: I could not see anything you describe above,
    > it (claws) just was lightning fast with 3 imap mail accounts configured
    > on the Eee PC in the footer (when I tested kde 4.6 was my kde version, I
    > just upgraded kde after I found my new favorite mail client which is
    > thunderbird 8).


    How long was Claws running? For me, it's been starting fast but it slows
    down after around an hour and brings everything else to almost a
    standstill.

    I've been using TB8 and having trouble with that too. Worst is that I've
    altered the junk settings in the accounts but they haven't stayed set.
    Meant that an important mail has been labelled spam and disappeared into
    the ether. I'll have to raise a bug report for that one.

    > I am afraid you ran into an unrelated problem (unrelated to kde)
    > specific for your setup.


    I suspect you're right. Just tried Claws on Gnome and it was lightning
    fast. Unfortunately, it crashed when I tried to load the "fancy" plugin.
    I was running 12.1 so may be a bug. I'll try Gnome on 11.4 tomorrow and
    see if it slows down or not.


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    Default Re: Claws crawls in KDE

    Am 13.11.2011 00:08, schrieb Cloddy:
    >> Yes I tried claws just a few days ago since I decided to bypass
    >> kmail2

    >
    > In my experience, you've made a wise choice!
    >

    I did extensive testing with kmail2 two times (two times with 11.4 with
    kde 4.7 and one time with 12.1 RC2), well it worked with a lot of effort
    including manual migration of my accounts (the automatic one failed
    every time miserably) but not in a satisfying way, I do not want to get
    into it otherwise I need to start a never ending rant about all my
    wasted time.
    I do not know how long I used kmail (many years! I think 8), but that
    was it now.

    > How long was Claws running? For me, it's been starting fast but it

    slows
    > down after around an hour and brings everything else to almost a
    > standstill.
    >

    I used it for several hours (I am not sure maybe 4-5 hours) to get an
    idea how it is, in general it is not bad (no that is too negative, it is
    a good program as far as I can say after only playing with it) but not
    my cup of tea.

    > I've been using TB8 and having trouble with that too. Worst is that
    > I've altered the junk settings in the accounts but they haven't
    > stayed set.

    Did not test the junk settings until now.

    >> I am afraid you ran into an unrelated problem (unrelated to kde)
    >> specific for your setup.

    >
    > I suspect you're right. Just tried Claws on Gnome and it was
    > lightning fast. Unfortunately, it crashed when I tried to load the
    > "fancy" plugin.

    Maybe it is a bug in the plugin itself.

    > I was running 12.1 so may be a bug. I'll try Gnome on 11.4 tomorrow
    > and see if it slows down or not.

    My claws test was on 11.4 kde 4.6 only, on 12.1 with kde 4.7 I did not
    test it, so it can be an incompatibility between the newer kde and claws
    (?).


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    Default Re: Claws crawls in KDE

    I have been using claws with KDE since 11.3 came out. So that's over a year. I have not noticed what you describe in 11.3 or 11.4. I haven't done much testing of claws with 12.1.
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    Default Re: Claws crawls in KDE

    On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:34:44 GMT
    Cloddy <newsboy@scarlet-jade.com> wrote:

    >I've been trying Claws as e-mailer but it is horrendously slow. It
    >makes watching paint dry seem unbearably exciting. CPU goes up to 50%
    >(one processor) at times but that's Xorg and was doing that before
    >Claws was installed. Also, everything runs dead slow or stop with CPU
    >at only 10-20%. As soon as I closed down Claws, everything began
    >whizzing along again.
    >
    >Anyone else tried Claws on KDE?
    >
    >I think I'll try installing a Gnome system and see what happens there.
    >Makes some sort of sense to give Gnome yet another go as most of the
    >software I use is primarily designed to run on that.
    >
    >


    I use claws on KDE and have no issues. I recently tossed thunderbird
    (my printing problem with all mozilla) and run since claws and its a
    breeze on my setup.
    It may be a database issue? Not sure, but i don't think its claws that
    taken the cpu down.

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    On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:14:42 GMT
    JoergJaeger <joergcjaeger@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    > I use claws on KDE and have no issues. I recently tossed thunderbird
    > (my printing problem with all mozilla) and run since claws and its a
    > breeze on my setup.
    > It may be a database issue? Not sure, but i don't think its claws that
    > taken the cpu down.


    I'm a bit frightened to admit this in case it all goes pear-shaped but
    I've no problems this morning and the PC's been up for 12+ hours. The
    only change I've made is to replace Spamassassin with Bogofilter as the
    latter is supposed to be quicker.

    The slow running was not associated with CPU-hogging. I'm not sure
    what else could cause everything to grind to a virtual halt. I/O
    trouble?


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    Default Re: Claws crawls in KDE

    On 2011-11-13 12:24, Cloddy wrote:
    > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:14:42 GMT
    > JoergJaeger <> wrote:


    > I'm a bit frightened to admit this in case it all goes pear-shaped but
    > I've no problems this morning and the PC's been up for 12+ hours. The
    > only change I've made is to replace Spamassassin with Bogofilter as the
    > latter is supposed to be quicker.
    >
    > The slow running was not associated with CPU-hogging. I'm not sure
    > what else could cause everything to grind to a virtual halt. I/O
    > trouble?


    A problem with SpamAssassin is that sometimes it tries network tests that
    take a few seconds to respond, or that are broken and do not respond at
    all. During that time CPU is nil, waiting for a response. But the result is
    that mail processing is slow.

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    On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:53:06 GMT
    "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    > On 2011-11-13 12:24, Cloddy wrote:
    > > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:14:42 GMT
    > > JoergJaeger <> wrote:

    >
    > > I'm a bit frightened to admit this in case it all goes pear-shaped
    > > but I've no problems this morning and the PC's been up for 12+
    > > hours. The only change I've made is to replace Spamassassin with
    > > Bogofilter as the latter is supposed to be quicker.
    > >
    > > The slow running was not associated with CPU-hogging. I'm not sure
    > > what else could cause everything to grind to a virtual halt. I/O
    > > trouble?

    >
    > A problem with SpamAssassin is that sometimes it tries network tests
    > that take a few seconds to respond, or that are broken and do not
    > respond at all. During that time CPU is nil, waiting for a response.
    > But the result is that mail processing is slow.
    >


    I've used Spamassassin in TB and Kmail without any delays of the
    magnitude that affected Claws. One thing I found is that Claws needs
    the spamd daemon to be running, which neither of the other two require.
    Perhaps this explains the difference?

    Anyway, this means I can now give Claws a good workout. Thanks to
    everyone for the helpful comments.

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    Default Re: Claws crawls in KDE

    On 2011-11-13 15:28, Cloddy wrote:
    > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:53:06 GMT
    > "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:


    > I've used Spamassassin in TB and Kmail without any delays of the
    > magnitude that affected Claws. One thing I found is that Claws needs
    > the spamd daemon to be running, which neither of the other two require.
    > Perhaps this explains the difference?


    It really depends on the set of rules it uses.

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