Error: corrupted orphan linked list

I have openSUSE 11.4 (64-bit version) installed,
but since getting an error, I have begun
just using the LIVE_CD 11.4 to work around it.

Within the ++++++ delimiters below I have
posted the startup notices as they appear on
the monitor until the login is sought. The
/dev/sda9 mentioned is a sub-drive on an
extended partition of my laptop’s HDD. My
question is this:
If I wait two weeks and install openSUSE
12.1, will this problem just take care of
itself as the new version is applied? Or do
I need to do the fix of my current version
11.4 before beginning the upgrade to 12.1?

I have searched the forums with the phrase
“corrupted orphan linked list” but the con-
versations elicited in the four threads
which turn up do not seem to apply to my
specific question.

Thank you for thinking about my predicament.

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. . . .
mounting mandatory file systems . . . done
done
Starting udevd: ok

Loading drivers, configuring devices: done
Loading required kernal modules done
Activating swap-devices in /etc/fstab. . . done
Set system Time to the current Hardware ClockSat Oct 15 08:34:23 2011 -0.734700 seconds
done
Activating device mapper. . . done
Checking file systems. . . done
fsck from util-linux 2.19
/dev/sda9 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
/dev/sda9:
Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found.

/dev/sda9: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY.
(i.e., without -a or -p options) failed

fsck failed for at least one filesystem (not /).
Please repair manually and reboot.
The root file system is already mounted read-write.

Attention: Only CONTROL-D will reboot the system in this
maintenance mode. shutdown or reboot will not work

Give root password for login:
Login incorrect.
Give root password for login:

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Run fsck manually and see if that works. If not, post the output of fsck here.

Your error says that running fsck manually will fix it, and if it doesn’t then fsck’s output will help to figure out why it’s not working.

On 11/02/2011 05:06 AM, 3bitsShortOfaByte wrote:
> If I wait two weeks and install openSUSE
> 12.1, will this problem just take care of
> itself as the new version is applied?

probably not…it is probably not a problem with 11.4 or any software
you run…

you are seeing the result of a file system inconsistency…that might be
caused by a hardware problem (disk dying)…or, it might be caused by
unclean shutdowns (like pulling the power, or using the power switch to
shut down), or situations in which the software is allowed to be in such
an unstable state that it crashes and leaves bad juju on the disk…

this problem may be rather easy to fix with fsck…or, it may
require a new hard drive…but, it is highly unlikely to be fixed by
simply instaling 12.1


DD
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On 2011-11-02 05:06, 3bitsShortOfaByte wrote:

> Within the ++++++ delimiters below I have

You should use code tags instead. Advanced editor, #.

> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> /dev/sda9 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
> /dev/sda9:
> Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found.
>
> /dev/sda9: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY.
> (i.e., without -a or -p options) failed
>
> fsck failed for at least one filesystem (not /).
> Please repair manually and reboot.
> The root file system is already mounted read-write.
>
> Attention: Only CONTROL-D will reboot the system in this
> maintenance mode. shutdown or reboot will not work
>
> Give root password for login:
> Login incorrect.
> Give root password for login:
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The system is telling you what to do: fsck on sda9. Do it.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

Thank you to all three of you good folks for responding. I do think my problem was, as DenverD suggests, a bad shutdown on my part. The rest of my hard drive has worked fine in every other way (except booting right!) under the LIVE-CD of 11.4. I am going to do the fsck, as you all agree I should. Because I’m a little overcautious, I’m working on completely backing up the Linux partition of the hard drive before I execute fsck. I probably won’t get done with that backup part until tomorrow. I just wanted to give you an update and let you know that I appreciate your good ideas. I’ll let you know how it ends.

On 11/03/2011 04:26 AM, 3bitsShortOfaByte wrote:
>
> I’ll let you know how it ends.

-backup is always GOOD
-and type “man fsck” at a command line and read read read
-don’t forget the error said to run it “without -a or -p options”
-if after reading you have questions: Ask them before running fsck


DD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems

On 2011-11-03 04:26, 3bitsShortOfaByte wrote:

> Because I’m a little overcautious, I’m working on completely
> backing up the Linux partition of the hard drive before I execute fsck.

Bad timing. You can not do a backup of a partition that needs doing an
fsck, because you can not mount it. You can backup an image, but that image
will be corrupt and needs an fsck itself.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

It worked. fsck fixed the problem. It reported to me:
Inode 1525002 was part of the orphaned mode list. FIXED

My hesitation in applying fsck was just to know that I had backed up my personal data and checked that it was accurate in the backup. That took extra time. I was not imagining that the backuped system material would be corrected. I just wanted to protect the other data. All is well. My system is back to normal and I look forward to trying out 12.1 in a few more days!

Thanks to you good folks for your encouragement and excellent advice.

On 11/05/2011 03:24 AM, 3bitsShortOfaByte wrote:
>
> I was not imagining that the backuped system material would
> be corrected.

whatever data you backed up from sda9 now needs to be backup again
(because the backup you have of it is corrupt)…its always good to have
a recent backup of important data before ‘disaster’ strikes…

and, if you don’t have SMART installed and active you should probably
consider doing that…drives do fail and SMART will usually give you
some indication prior to . . .


DD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems

Thanks, DenverD,

I understand what you said “whatever data you backed up from sda9 now needs to be backup again
(because the backup you have of it is corrupt)” and I understood it before as well. What I meant by saying
“I was not imagining that the backuped system material would be corrected” was that I was really happy
that the personal data on other partitions was untouched by the problem. I do not change configuration
details frequently, so I thought that if fsck did not fix sda9 [which now, of course, it did], I would not have
to change a lot from a previous backup of sda9 done a few months ago. I will now do a proper backup of
the current sda9. I will also look into SMART. I’m not familiar with it, so a I appreciate your reference to
it for me.

Thank you again.

On 11/05/2011 03:36 PM, 3bitsShortOfaByte wrote:
> I will also look into SMART. I’m not familiar with
> it, so a I appreciate your reference to it for me.

welcome, its a good tool…can install with YaST > Software
Management…though it takes some reading to begin to understand what it
tells you…it can alert you to problems . . .


DD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems

Hi DenverD,

…though it takes some reading to begin to understand what it
tells you…it can alert you to problems . . .

I looked around online to discover information about SMART, since it was not known to me. To save other interested openSUSE folks time in hunting down useful facts, I’m listing here a few pages which explain some details about SMART. I hope some of you may find them helpful.

SourceForge who maintain SMART Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology (SMART)

LewTherinTelemon’s article (recommended on this forum’s thread ](http://forums.opensuse.org/forums/english/get-technical-help-here/hardware/450940-hard-disk-may-failing.html)): [http://www.timelordz.com/wiki/SMART_Drive_Diagnostics]](http://www.timelordz.com/wiki/SMART_Drive_Diagnostics)

A Linux Journal article from 2004: ](http://www.linuxjournal.com/magazine/monitoring-hard-disks-smart?page=0,0)

And from Wikipedia: ](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Monitoring%2C_Analysis%2C_and_Reporting_Technology)

Several of these sites have good additional references which one can pursue.
In addition to the Linux version, there are varieties for other operating systems. If you would like to find out about GUI versions, just do an internet search on (for example)
smart s.m.a.r.t. monitor
There you can locate some inexpensive commercially “souped up” GUI programs with bells and whistles.

Please excuse yesterday’s message. I apologize.

My previous post was incorrectly structured and a ten minute time restriction prevented me from editing it properly. Here is how it ought to actually appear.

I looked around online to discover information about SMART, since it was not known to me. To save other interested openSUSE folks time in hunting down useful facts, I’m listing here a few pages which explain some details about SMART. I hope some of you new to SMART (of course I don’t mean you, DenverD!) may find them helpful.

Sourceforge is where the SMART project is hosted.

LewTherinTelemon’s article (recommended on this forum’s thread: Get Help Here) is
. SMART Drive Diagnostics.

A Linux Journal article from 2004: Monitoring Hard Disks with SMART.

And from Wikipedia: Hard Drive Self-Monitoring.

Several of these sites have good additional references which one can pursue.
In addition to the Linux version, there are varieties for other operating systems. If you would like to find out about GUI versions, just do an internet search on (for example)
. smart s.m.a.r.t. monitor
There you can locate some inexpensive commercially “souped up” GUI programs with bells and whistles.

On 11/09/2011 09:06 PM, 3bitsShortOfaByte wrote:
> (of course I
> don’t mean you, DenverD!)

please do not confuse me with someone who knows everything…i learn
everyday from lots of folks here…and, i’m sure no expert on SMART…

thanks for posting helpful info for all!!!


DD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems