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    Default Install 3.x.x kernel in 11.4. Can it be done with relative ease?

    I wasnt shure if i should post this here or in the install/boot forums.

    I been meaning to try the newest 3.x kernel, and i of couse want to do it on my favorite distro, openSUSE.

    Is there a way i can install and use the 3.x kernel in my 11.4 installation that does not require me to build/compile the kernel?
    Can i add a repository or something where i can "just install" a 3.x version of the desktop kernel?
    e.g. zypper install kernel-desktop-3.0.x

    Any help much appreciated.

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    Default Re: Install 3.x.x kernel in 11.4. Can it be done with relativeease?

    On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 02:46:02 +0000, ErnestoRD wrote:

    > Is there a way i can install and use the 3.x kernel in my 11.4
    > installation that does *not* require me to build/compile the kernel? Can
    > i add a repository or something where i can "just install" a 3.x version
    > of the desktop kernel?
    > e.g. zypper install kernel-desktop-3.0.x


    Not at this stage, unless someone has built it in OBS and put it in a
    repository there.

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    Default Re: Install 3.x.x kernel in 11.4. Can it be done with relative ease?

    Quote Originally Posted by ErnestoRD View Post
    I wasnt shure if i should post this here or in the install/boot forums.

    I been meaning to try the newest 3.x kernel, and i of couse want to do it on my favorite distro, openSUSE.

    Is there a way i can install and use the 3.x kernel in my 11.4 installation that does not require me to build/compile the kernel?
    Can i add a repository or something where i can "just install" a 3.x version of the desktop kernel?
    e.g. zypper install kernel-desktop-3.0.x

    Any help much appreciated.
    This repo
    Index of /repositories/Kernel:/HEAD/standard

    But you may need to consider your graphic card situation
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    Default Re: Install 3.x.x kernel in 11.4. Can it be done with relative ease?

    For the latest available stable kernel (3.0.3 at the moment) add the Kernel:stable-standard repository and update with YaST or zypper.
    Code:
    # zypper ar "http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/" "Kernel:stable"
    # zypper mr -r "Kernel:stable"
    # zypper up kernel-desktop
    I really recommend this for a desktop machine. The graphics and wireless drivers have improved considerably since the 2.6.38 kernel -- for most purposes the use of closed source graphic drivers is now redundant.

    If you want to walk on the wild side the 3.1rc builds appear in the Kernel:HEAD/standard repository

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    Default Re: Install 3.x.x kernel in 11.4. Can it be done with relative ease?

    Thanks for your answers guys.
    Im not too concerned about the graphics card, since its an intel built in. no nvidia, ati or anything fancy.
    What i am a bit concerned about, is my broadcom wireless card.

    so i just follow the steps kindly provided by eng-int, reboot and select the proper kernel from the list. Right?

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    Default Re: Install 3.x.x kernel in 11.4. Can it be done with relative ease?

    When you switch to the new kernel repo
    You may be required to uninstall broadcom-wl drivers, if you have them from Packman. If not, you should be fine. There is much better broadcom support in v.3>
    And you will not need the 'wl' driver.

    If you are using 'wl' now, post install of the kernel you will need to do the following

    Code:
    sudo /usr/sbin/install_bcm43xx_firmware
    Code:
    sudo /sbin/modprobe -rv b43
    Code:
    sudo /sbin/modprobe -v b43
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    Default Re: Install 3.x.x kernel in 11.4. Can it be done with relative ease?

    eng-int wrote:

    > The graphics and
    > wireless drivers have improved considerably since the 2.6.38 kernel --
    > for most purposes the use of closed source graphic drivers is now
    > redundant.


    Is there a live build of 11.4 somewhere with kernel 3.x for me to test this?
    Or could i simply build my own with the stable release kernel added?

    I haven't done too much with building my own live distro.
    So if there isn't one, i might give it a go.
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    Default Re: Install 3.x.x kernel in 11.4. Can it be done with relative ease?

    @Chris: a thing you could consider is moving to openSUSE Tumbleweed. Search the forums for "Tumbleweed" and you'll find everything you need. Tumbleweed atm serves
    Code:
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    Linux Knurpht.laptop 3.0.3-42-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 25 02:17:07 UTC 2011 (026eef6) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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    Default Re: Install 3.x.x kernel in 11.4. Can it be done with relative ease?

    Knurpht wrote:

    > @Chris: a thing you could consider is moving to openSUSE Tumbleweed.
    > Search the forums for "Tumbleweed" and you'll find everything you need.
    > Tumbleweed atm serves


    No i don't want a rolling distro, i like it stable :-)

    I just made a live iso from the standard kde live iso with the stable kernel
    repo aded.
    Just tested it in virtualbox and it works :-)

    All i want is to see if the nouveau drivers are realy as good like you said.
    All i need nvidia drivers for are desktop effects and HD movies.
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    Default Re: Install 3.x.x kernel in 11.4. Can it be done with relative ease?

    Chris Maaskant wrote:
    All i want is to see if the nouveau drivers are realy as good like you said.
    All i need nvidia drivers for are desktop effects and HD movies.
    I would be interested in your impressions. The general advice given here is to go straight to the closed-source drivers, but I prefer to use a newer stable kernel. I have also been installing xorg-x11-driver-video-radeonhd and drm-radeon-kmp-desktop from the .../home:jobermayr/openSUSE-11.4 repository. This is mostly on small low power machines (Intel Atom, Nvidia Ion) used for office work and remote access to virtual desktops. Two friends also use these machines for home entertainment.
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