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    Default Installing kernel source for 11.2?

    Folks,

    I'm not a Linux noob, but have always used Mandriva up until now. I am trying to get some very specialist software going that is only supported on Suse and Red Hat, so am going to give Suse a go for this project.

    I'm trying to install NI-VISA which will allow me to communicate with various electronics equipment over USB. I need to use 11.2 as it's the most recent version of Suse that is fully supported.

    I have sussed that YAST is my rpm manager and installed gcc. However, I need to install the kernel source. uname -a tells me that 2.6.31.5-0.1-desktop is my kernel version, but when I search for kernel in YAST it's not giving me the option to install this particular version of source files.

    With Mandriva you have to install various extra sources to be able to download some packages. Do I need to do something similar here?

    Also, my Internet connection is rather slow. Is this a known thing?

    Many thanks.

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    Default Re: Installing kernel source for 11.2?

    On 08/24/2011 07:06 PM, DiBosco wrote:
    > I need to use 11.2 as it's the
    > most recent version of Suse that is fully supported.


    -=welcome=- new poster...

    but, i think you are running SUSE Enterprise Linux 11.2, we can learn
    that for sure by you doing this

    [code]
    cat /etc/SuSE-release
    [code]

    if you are running SLE, the best place for your questions is over in
    http://tinyurl.com/422mrnu, where the makers, distributors, and
    supporters for the enterprise version hang out...(we are the community
    not involved directly with the commercial version....kinda like we are
    to SLE as Fedora is to Red Hat)

    unfortunately, if you are using openSUSE 11.2 then i _guess_ the problem
    is that that version is no longer supported with full up repos...which
    is why you can't get the source....there is, however a move to extend
    the life of openSUSE 11.1 over at the Evergreen corner
    http://tinyurl.com/4aflkpy...maybe someday they will extend to 11.2, but
    i doubt it..

    lets see what the cat says...and, then go from there.

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    Default Re: Installing kernel source for 11.2?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiBosco
    Folks,

    I'm not a Linux noob, but have always used Mandriva up until now. I am
    trying to get some very specialist software going that is only supported
    on Suse and Red Hat, so am going to give Suse a go for this project.

    I'm trying to install NI-VISA which will allow me to communicate with
    various electronics equipment over USB. I need to use 11.2 as it's the
    most recent version of Suse that is fully supported.

    I have sussed that YAST is my rpm manager and installed gcc. However, I
    need to install the kernel source. uname -a tells me that
    2.6.31.5-0.1-desktop is my kernel version, but when I search for kernel
    in YAST it's not giving me the option to install this particular version
    of source files.

    With Mandriva you have to install various extra sources to be able to
    download some packages. Do I need to do something similar here?

    Also, my Internet connection is rather slow. Is this a known thing?

    Many thanks.

    Hi
    11.2 is in the 'discontinued' area on some mirrors;
    Your rpm is available here if you add as a repository;
    http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/dis...11.2/repo/oss/

    You might also wish to add;
    http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/dis.../repo/non-oss/
    http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/dis...d/update/11.2/

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    Default Re: Installing kernel source for 11.2?

    Chaps,

    Many thanks for the reply. I am absolutely one hundred percent definitely using open Suse and not the enterprise edition. /etc/SuSE-release confirms that.

    I [think] I have added the repositories you suggested, Malcolm, but this seems to make no difference. I launched yast, went to software repositories, clicked add, selected "specify URL" clicked next and put the URLs you lised above. When I go back to software management within yast and seacrh for source, I still don't see 2.6.31.5-0.1-desktop. I take it that isn't anything that is shipped with this installation DVD? It seems logical that the available source would be the one for the installed kernel.

    Thanks again,

    Rob

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    Default Re: Installing kernel source for 11.2?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiBosco View Post
    Chaps,

    Many thanks for the reply. I am absolutely one hundred percent definitely using open Suse and not the enterprise edition. /etc/SuSE-release confirms that.

    I [think] I have added the repositories you suggested, Malcolm, but this seems to make no difference. I launched yast, went to software repositories, clicked add, selected "specify URL" clicked next and put the URLs you lised above. When I go back to software management within yast and seacrh for source, I still don't see 2.6.31.5-0.1-desktop. I take it that isn't anything that is shipped with this installation DVD? It seems logical that the available source would be the one for the installed kernel.

    Thanks again,

    Rob
    Point is, that 11.2 has reached the end of it's lifetime. If I were you I'd install openSUSE 11.4, to avoid running in to missing packages etc. etc.
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    Default Re: Installing kernel source for 11.2?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knurpht View Post
    Point is, that 11.2 has reached the end of it's lifetime. If I were you I'd install openSUSE 11.4, to avoid running in to missing packages etc. etc.
    I can't do that, because National Instruments' software only works up to 11.2.

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    Default Re: Installing kernel source for 11.2?

    On 08/25/2011 12:06 PM, DiBosco wrote:
    > I can't do that, because National Instruments' software only works up
    > to 11.2.


    that sounds like a problem you need to take up with National Instruments
    (perhaps before buying their goods)..

    you might ask them why they produce commercial products that only
    support short lived distros with a shelf life of only 18 months!! (from
    12 Nov 09 to 12 May 11; see,
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Timeline_openSUSE)

    i _guess_ the NI software works with SUSE Linux Enterprise 11, which has
    a life to 2016, at least??

    so, maybe you just need to switch to the supported OS...or, you might
    _try_ running in 11.4, might work fine...i do not know..(and, if you ask
    NI, they might say give it a try [and then change their written
    documentation when they learn 11.4 is ok...but, 11.4 ages out 15 Sep
    2012, so . . . ]

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    DenverD wrote:
    > On 08/25/2011 12:06 PM, DiBosco wrote:
    >> I can't do that, because National Instruments' software only works up
    >> to 11.2.

    >
    > that sounds like a problem you need to take up with National Instruments
    > (perhaps before buying their goods)..
    >
    > you might ask them why they produce commercial products that only
    > support short lived distros with a shelf life of only 18 months!! (from
    > 12 Nov 09 to 12 May 11; see,
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Timeline_openSUSE)


    http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Evergreen
    http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Evergreen_11.2

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    Default Re: Installing kernel source for 11.2?

    Hi DiBosco

    You can download the required rpm's (including dependencies) from the repositories as indicated by malcolmlewis to a local directory and then - with yast - add this directory as a "RPM only" source in yast. Make it to refresh and you should be able to install from it. This worked well for me with 11.2.

    Despite of your internet connection being "rather slow" (whatever this is) you may consider to get the whole standard 11.2 repos as long as they exist on gwdg.de. This would enable you to to maintain the system for some more time. Also watch out for the Evergreen project. Adding 11.2 is planned.
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    Default Re: Installing kernel source for 11.2?

    Quote Originally Posted by DenverD View Post
    that sounds like a problem you need to take up with National Instruments
    (perhaps before buying their goods)..

    you might ask them why they produce commercial products that only
    support short lived distros with a shelf life of only 18 months!! (from
    12 Nov 09 to 12 May 11; see,
    Template:Timeline openSUSE - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

    i _guess_ the NI software works with SUSE Linux Enterprise 11, which has
    a life to 2016, at least??

    so, maybe you just need to switch to the supported OS...or, you might
    _try_ running in 11.4, might work fine...i do not know..(and, if you ask
    NI, they might say give it a try [and then change their written
    documentation when they learn 11.4 is ok...but, 11.4 ages out 15 Sep
    2012, so . . . ]
    Hmmm, it's either play this game with what NI support or use Windows. I really don't want to use Windows, both from the point of view of it being a horrible OS and becaue of not wanting to get involved with Microsoft. If I understand correctly Enterprise SuSE is tied in with them as well. I would rather go down the Red Hat route than that.

    The problem is NI engineers have the usual battle with management supporting Linux, so they don't put as much resource in as they do to the Windows version and we all know how fast Linux changes. I believe USB has changed quite a bit in the last few kernel releases and that impacts on this because the NI installation is a proprietay piece of software that they haven't changed to keep up with the latter changes. It's the same old **** we end up against with the likes of nvidia. So, this is why I am stuck with needing to use 11.2 I am not buying any product from NI other than some libraries to allow my computer to "talk" to an oscilloscope. Of course, the Oscilloscope manufacturers provide lovely libraries...that work on Windows and nothing else.

    Frankly, it doesn't matter a hoot whether it is outdated. It's never going on-line, it's a piece of specialised test equipment that will be connected to a Linux server running mysql. I'm not in the slightest bit worried about updates, security attacks etc.

    Thanks for the help though, it is much appreciated.

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