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    Default Update issue

    Hi I have been trying to update my system for a week now. I go through all the procedures but the update icon is still there telling me i have 98 updates.
    how can i finally update properly...thanks for the help guys...

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    Default Re: Update issue

    On 08/14/2011 06:26 AM, lost95 wrote:
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    > Hi I have been trying to update my system for a week now. I go through
    > all the procedures but the update icon is still there telling me i have
    > 98 updates.
    > how can i finally update properly...thanks for the help guys...


    -=welcome=- new poster..

    but, to help you we need to know a little more...like what operating
    system and version are you using, and what desktop environment..

    since you didn't say i will assume you are running openSUSE 11.4 and KDE
    4.6.0:

    the name of the application with the update icon telling you to update
    is kpackagekit....a part of packagekit and, it is a _known_ trouble
    maker (see http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php?t=460773,
    http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php?t=461819 and many others)..do
    NOT use it for any purpose...(it is not even useful to signal you need
    to do an update--as your current situation proves)..

    so, you must always use YaST > Online Update to do your updates and
    never give package kit a chance to so any..

    personally i used YaST > Software Management to remove kpackage kit from
    my system, but maybe you want to just right click on the icon and select
    'disable' 'do not install updates' or whatever it has like that [i don't
    have the icon to click on any more, to see what to tell you]

    now, a couple of things: without an automatic program to look and see
    what updates are available you will need to do that...once a week is
    often enough, but you can do it every day or hour if you wish...and,
    YaST Online Update isn't the only way to do updates, you can also use
    the command line interface program named zypper, if you wish...read
    around in the openSUSE wiki or forum on how to do that..

    again, welcome

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    Default Re: Update issue

    My favourite method now is YaST>Software Management rather than Online Update. It's more manual and you have to get into the habit of doing it regularly but it has many advantages: you can see what's on offer, repo by repo if you like (especially if you have more than the standard ones), click on the descriptions to see what things are, what's new etc. A very educational experience, and it soon becomes very reassuring to know precisely what you're letting loose in your system every week or so...
    Günter

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    On 08/14/2011 01:46 PM, gminnerup wrote:

    > My favourite method now is YaST>Software Management rather than Online
    > Update. It's more manual and you have to get into the habit of doing it
    > regularly but it has many advantages: you can see what's on offer, repo
    > by repo if you like (especially if you have more than the standard
    > ones), click on the descriptions to see what things are, what's new etc.
    > A very educational experience,


    yes *but* the OP has an "update" problem, and that is a very specific
    word which is _different_ from the word "upgrade" (which is what [i
    think] you are talking about)..

    like if you go into a community repo (say
    http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/) and find that there
    is a firefox 5.1.0 (or whatever is there which is newer than the 5.0.0
    in the 'standard' repos oss/non-oss) and decide to install it, you are
    *not* doing an 'update' you are doing an 'upgrade'! you are upgrading
    from one version to a newer one...

    by definition, updates are _only_ patches and security fixes to the
    _current_ application, and _not_ an upgrade to a newer version of the
    application..

    security and (bug) patches to update existing software flows though the
    _update_ repo, only! and YaST Online Update looks _only_ in the update
    repo for updates...it does not look into the community repos and it does
    not offer the user upgrades!


    > and it soon becomes very reassuring to
    > know precisely what you're letting loose in your system every week or
    > so...


    well, it might be reassuring to you, but it is not the easiest way to
    maintain a stable system...i'm not saying it is not possible to have a
    stable system which is constantly manually upgraded....but, it is
    certainly not the easiest way to a stable system!

    now, i understand that many wish to (try to) have the very newest
    software available (for "bragging rights" they say) but, i'd personally
    rather brag that i've not had to reinstall linux in so many years i
    really don't recall when i did that last....hmmmmm, i think it was
    before i switched to SuSE, when 9.2 came out..

    *if* i wanted to run the latest and greatest i wouldn't do your way (i'm
    not saying your way is not a good way for you--though it is *not*
    updating) instead i'd just run Tumbleweed.. (it is too 'cutting-edge'
    for what i want: stable, secure, dependable, reliable, predictable,
    ready, willing and able)

    as always: my opinions may differ from yours, ymmv on those (but, the
    difference between update and upgrade is not an opinion, its a fact)

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    Default Re: Update issue

    You're right, of course, on upgrade/update which is why I mentioned the possibility of doing things by repo. I often only bother on a weekly basis with the update repo. And what you say about stability is one reason I haven't gone the Tumbleweed route (yet).
    Günter

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    Default Re: Update issue

    To the OP: please post output of
    Code:
    zypper lr -d
    This generates a list of configured repos and their status. We then can see what might be causing the issue
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