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    Default Wine really works with thousands of windows programs?

    Hello,
    After having read the wild claims by Wine website that their App (Wine) runs thousands of Windows programs I have tried to run my Windows programs with dismal failure. The programs, various types including games ie Wolfenstein Enemy Territory and apps like FXCM trading station II just to name a couple, install but do not run. When going to WineHQ for further information I can see that these errors have been logged sometime ago and no fix is available for them. I do not have any expertise so my efforts are futile in trying to understand how to get a Windows program to work. I understand if they cannot get games and apps to work but when they loudly claim to have such success I had expected a much better result from Wine than I have seen in 12 months of trying periodically.

    If anyone can assist me with those to programs above and perhaps offer a little education as to how I may be able to solve further Windows programs failures on Wine so that i can use Wine as they claim. I would like to dump windows but who really can when It has such a large impact in the world around us. If Linux can solve the software issues from Windows to Linux or perhaps Apps like Wine then we can truly have another Computer OS for the general and Commercial market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darren787 View Post
    Hello,
    After having read the wild claims by Wine website that their App (Wine) runs thousands of Windows programs I have tried to run my Windows programs with dismal failure. The programs, various types including games ie Wolfenstein Enemy Territory and apps like FXCM trading station II just to name a couple, install but do not run. When going to WineHQ for further information I can see that these errors have been logged sometime ago and no fix is available for them. I do not have any expertise so my efforts are futile in trying to understand how to get a Windows program to work. I understand if they cannot get games and apps to work but when they loudly claim to have such success I had expected a much better result from Wine than I have seen in 12 months of trying periodically.

    If anyone can assist me with those to programs above and perhaps offer a little education as to how I may be able to solve further Windows programs failures on Wine so that i can use Wine as they claim. I would like to dump windows but who really can when It has such a large impact in the world around us. If Linux can solve the software issues from Windows to Linux or perhaps Apps like Wine then we can truly have another Computer OS for the general and Commercial market.
    The Packman repository has Playonlinux, which is Wine but seeks to make things a little easier. Maybe you are more lucky with that?

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    Not all games are working on WINE as of yet (especially the new ones) however, I noticed your trying to run Wolfenstein Enemy Territory via wine any reason why you are not using the Linux native version?

    you can find it at this link Download Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory 2.60b for Linux - Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory is a Multiplayer Online First Person Shooter. - Softpedia

    Secondly for apps there is a tool called WINE tricks that makes installing them easyer http://en.opensuse.org/Wine#winetricks

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    Quote Originally Posted by darren787 View Post
    After having read the wild claims by Wine website that their App (Wine) runs thousands of Windows programs I have tried to run my Windows programs with dismal failure.
    That claim is based on WineHQ AppDB statistics. The AppDB, as of this moment, has 10368 entries. A search for platinum-rated applications, which according to user reports work perfectly out-of-the box, turns up 3021 entries, and a search for gold-rated ones, which according to user reports work perfectly with some tweaking, turns up another 2699. However, if you search for apps rated garbage (according to user reports don't work at all), the number is 3428. So while it is true that thousands work, it is also true that thousands don't, and any given user's experience with Wine is going to depend on exactly what apps they are trying to run.

    Quote Originally Posted by darren787 View Post
    If anyone can assist me with those to programs above and perhaps offer a little education as to how I may be able to solve further Windows programs failures on Wine so that i can use Wine as they claim.
    There is no "one size fits all" answer; the tweaks that may be needed are specific to each app. One piece of general advice I can give you for directx games is that you need a newish nvidia card running the proprietary driver. Anything else will have problems, often to the point of being unusable. Beyond that, check the AppDB for tips, and if you don't find any, ask for help on the Wine user's forum.

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    Default Re: Wine really works with thousands of windows programs?

    I'm not a gamer so maybe I'm missing the point of this thread, but I've never understood the attractions of Wine. In my early Linux days, I dual-booted to retain access to my Windows apps but now I'm simply running XP and W7 VMs in Virtualbox. Are VM graphics too slow for games?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gminnerup View Post
    I'm not a gamer so maybe I'm missing the point of this thread, but I've never understood the attractions of Wine. In my early Linux days, I dual-booted to retain access to my Windows apps but now I'm simply running XP and W7 VMs in Virtualbox. Are VM graphics too slow for games?
    The point is to not have to buy Windows.

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    Default Re: Wine really works with thousands of windows programs?

    Quote Originally Posted by gminnerup View Post
    I'm not a gamer so maybe I'm missing the point of this thread, but I've never understood the attractions of Wine. In my early Linux days, I dual-booted to retain access to my Windows apps but now I'm simply running XP and W7 VMs in Virtualbox. Are VM graphics too slow for games?
    The point is to not have to buy Windows. I have better things to spend my money on.

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    Default Re: Wine really works with thousands of windows programs?

    Good point, except I didn't know anybody actually bought Windows. I got mine "bundled" with machines I bought (now I know that doesn't mean it's for "free", it's just that it's pretty difficult to get around).
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    Quote Originally Posted by gminnerup View Post
    Good point, except I didn't know anybody actually bought Windows. I got mine "bundled" with machines I bought (now I know that doesn't mean it's for "free", it's just that it's pretty difficult to get around).
    Personally, I started building my own desktop systems about 8 years ago. I did buy a laptop about 3 years ago, and yes, it had Vista on it, but there was no install disk, just a restore partition. There is no way to use that to install Windows in a VM. My impression is that that's how Windows comes on most consumer systems these days.

    I do happen to have a copy of XP provided by an employer, and I do have it installed in VMPlayer for those rare occasions when I need to use something that doesn't work in Wine. My system is fast enough that, once loaded, the performance in a VM is acceptable. But why should I wait for all of Windows to boot in a VM just to open a Powerpoint when I can do it directly with Powerpoint in Wine?

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    Why would a person want to run Wolfenstein in wine when it runs naively in Linux?

    I had been running thtagame natively years and years ago. In fact it is so easy to find that it makes me wonder why people do the things they do

    Files - Planet Wolfenstein

    Enemy Territory Linux Download, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory Demos

    Download Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory 2.60b for Linux - Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory is a Multiplayer Online First Person Shooter. - Softpedia

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