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  1. #11

    Default Re: KDE 4.7 and KMail

    On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 20:16:02 +0000, virstad wrote:

    > Maybe everything is easier/faster with a new installation - my /home/
    > has followed me many years and I bet together with some crazy settings.
    > But it did not take long time to fix it.


    I had two users set up on this machine and kmail refused to start on
    both. Kdepim worked fine on another machine and seemed to migrate
    everything OK. So I tried a new user on this machine and kmail launched
    successfully. Trouble is, the appearance of KDE task bar was a bit of a
    mess and there were no desktops available on it; no sign of the four
    defaults and so no apparent way of altering "pager" settings.



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  2. #12

    Default Re: KDE 4.7 and KMail

    On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 06:05:02 +0000, Cloddy wrote:

    > On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 20:16:02 +0000, virstad wrote:
    >
    >> Maybe everything is easier/faster with a new installation - my /home/
    >> has followed me many years and I bet together with some crazy settings.
    >> But it did not take long time to fix it.

    >
    > I had two users set up on this machine and kmail refused to start on
    > both. Kdepim worked fine on another machine and seemed to migrate
    > everything OK. So I tried a new user on this machine and kmail launched
    > successfully. Trouble is, the appearance of KDE task bar was a bit of a
    > mess and there were no desktops available on it; no sign of the four
    > defaults and so no apparent way of altering "pager" settings.


    Now got a new user installed OK via a new 11.4 install on another
    partition, copying what I thought were the files/folders I'd need from
    the old user, and then updating to KDE4.7.

    I've now got my mail converted apart from many local folders. Also the
    catching-up process through not using kmail for some time means I've been
    getting multiple copies of e-mails requiring a click on "take left
    one" (or right or both) in a pop-up window. Multiple copies after a few
    days / weeks / months layoff is par for the course for kmail and nothing
    to do with 4.7.

    Calendar seems to be OK but no import of contacts had been performed. I
    had to import them from the ldif file in .kde4/apps/kontact/.

    I've gotten to expect this kind of shambles every time there's a version
    change to kdepim. Might explain why I've switched to TB - though that can
    also be a pain in its own way.


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    Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
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  3. #13

    Default Re: KDE 4.7 and KMail

    Quote Originally Posted by Cloddy View Post
    On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 06:05:02 +0000, Cloddy wrote:
    Also the catching-up process through not using kmail for some time means I've been
    getting multiple copies of e-mails requiring a click on "take left
    one" (or right or both) in a pop-up window.
    I had the same behaviour before. Inspected "Settings/Configure filters" and changed the filters in the "Advanced" tab "from all accounts" to "from checked accounts only". Marked my pop-accounts but unchecked "KMail Maildir". Not sure if this was the trick but no multiple copies any more.

  4. #14

    Default Re: KDE 4.7 and KMail

    Quote Originally Posted by virstad View Post
    I had the same behaviour before. Inspected "Settings/Configure filters" and changed the filters in the "Advanced" tab "from all accounts" to "from checked accounts only". Marked my pop-accounts but unchecked "KMail Maildir". Not sure if this was the trick but no multiple copies any more.
    Worked for me, thx Bro!

  5. #15

    Default Re: KDE 4.7 and KMail

    On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:36:03 +0000, v gabor wrote:

    > virstad;2370608 Wrote:
    >> I had the same behaviour before. Inspected "Settings/Configure filters"
    >> and changed the filters in the "Advanced" tab "from all accounts" to
    >> "from checked accounts only". Marked my pop-accounts but unchecked
    >> "KMail Maildir". Not sure if this was the trick but no multiple copies
    >> any more.

    >
    > Worked for me, thx Bro!


    I'm still getting the odd pop-up box asking whether I want left, right or
    both.

    Filters are even more unreliable than 4.4 and that's saying something.
    New posts generally go into the inbox instead of where the filter tells
    them they should go. Apply filters by hand and off they go.

    I see half my addresses got lost in the "upgrade" so that's why some of
    my mail is spam-filtered when it shouldn't be. I'll add them back in and
    see whether, as with previous incarnations of kmail, they still get
    mistreated.


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    Default Re: KDE 4.7 and KMail

    Hi,

    My experience with KMail2 on KDE-4.7.0 has not been good either.

    Initially KMail refused to send any mail which fixed itself after I deleted all of my KMail-related configuration files and re-added my servers.

    Now I get frequent Update Conflict dialogs which seem to present two identical copies of the same message to choose from.

    Also duplicate, but greyed-out, messages appear in the message list and you cannot get rid of them after you have deleted the valid version.

    My bogofilter-driven Anti-Spam filter goes bonkers at times and you can see the Junk folder count increasing as multiple copies of the same e-mail are added.

    I can see why this version of KMail was kept away from end-users in previous versions of KDE. I am amazed that it found its way into KDE-4.7.0 in what is still clearly an Alpha state.

    My problem now is that the KDE-4.6.x repository probably won't receive any more updates so I might have to revert to stock KDE-4.6.0 to achieve a stable, updated, e-mail client solution.

    Regards,
    Neil Darlow
    Registered Linux user #122512. Desktop Linux user for 17 years.
    Asus Eee 900: 900MHz Celeron, 1GB RAM, 12GB SSD, 915GM, openSUSE-current+Tumbleweed
    Home-built Desktop: Athlon II X2 3.3GHz, 4GB RAM, 1TB SATA, GeForce G210, openSUSE-12.1-x86_64, KDE-4.7.2

  7. #17

    Default Re: KDE 4.7 and KMail

    On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 16:56:02 +0000, neildarlow wrote:

    >
    > My problem now is that the KDE-4.6.x repository probably won't receive
    > any more updates so I might have to revert to stock KDE-4.6.0 to achieve
    > a stable, updated, e-mail client solution.


    I gave up on kdepim a few months ago when it was still the 4.4 version
    and went back to Thunderbird. That wasn't without some difficulties,
    though. The main problem was that TB has an almost non-existent method
    for migrating mails from other applications. In the end, it was a matter
    of copying the files in mbox format into TB folders and then, if I
    remember rightly, into another set. Can't recall exactly, I know it was
    hellish complicated and resulted in one mail missed from each folder -
    but I thought that was a reasonable result.

    I thought I'd keep kmail etc. updated in case TB deteriorated - with new
    versions every quarter like FF I wouldn't bet against it. I doubt I could
    run it for long as it seems to cause xorg to use half my available cpu.

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    Default Re: KDE 4.7 and KMail

    Hi,

    I am sticking with KDE-4.6.5 on my desktop system. This has a KMail that works for distribution lists (earlier 4.6.x releases did not).

    KMail2 actually seems to be a real liability. It messed with my e-mail's metadata such that when I opened my account on this desktop it Spam-filtered all 256 mails in my INBOX again.

    I also think KMail2 is not deleting mails from IMAP properly. When you filter spam it leaves behind the e-mail (greyed-out) and it gets spam-filtered again. You can see the unread count in your Junk folder increasing as it adds multiple copies of the e-mails into it. Also you cannot empty a remote Wastebin. They just seem to stick there.

    I posted a few dents on Identi.ca yesterday relating to this and they caught Aaron Seigo's attention. My perspective is that KMail2 should not have been shipped with KDE-4.7.0 and I sense there might be a little embarrassment in the KDE community that it has. Interestingly, KUbuntu are continuing to ship KMail1 with their KDE-4.7.0 desktop and maybe more will follow.

    Regards,
    Neil Darlow
    Registered Linux user #122512. Desktop Linux user for 17 years.
    Asus Eee 900: 900MHz Celeron, 1GB RAM, 12GB SSD, 915GM, openSUSE-current+Tumbleweed
    Home-built Desktop: Athlon II X2 3.3GHz, 4GB RAM, 1TB SATA, GeForce G210, openSUSE-12.1-x86_64, KDE-4.7.2

  9. #19
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    Default Re: KDE 4.7 and KMail

    neildarlow wrote:

    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I am sticking with KDE-4.6.5 on my desktop system. This has a KMail
    > that works for distribution lists (earlier 4.6.x releases did not).
    >
    > KMail2 actually seems to be a real liability. It messed with my
    > e-mail's metadata such that when I opened my account on this desktop it
    > Spam-filtered all 256 mails in my INBOX again.
    >
    > I also think KMail2 is not deleting mails from IMAP properly. When you
    > filter spam it leaves behind the e-mail (greyed-out) and it gets
    > spam-filtered again. You can see the unread count in your Junk folder
    > increasing as it adds multiple copies of the e-mails into it. Also you
    > cannot empty a remote Wastebin. They just seem to stick there.
    >
    > I posted a few dents on Identi.ca yesterday relating to this and they
    > caught Aaron Seigo's attention. My perspective is that KMail2 should not
    > have been shipped with KDE-4.7.0 and I sense there might be a little
    > embarrassment in the KDE community that it has. Interestingly, KUbuntu
    > are continuing to ship KMail1 with their KDE-4.7.0 desktop and maybe
    > more will follow.
    >
    > Regards,
    > Neil Darlow
    >

    two questions:
    1) how are you setting up your distributions lists? From kmail or as
    distribution groups under contacts. I have problems with 4.6.5
    distribution lists under contact, they just have blank cards when looked
    at in kmail 1.13.7. (KDE 4.6.5). Have not tried creating list in kmail,
    since in the past it created the list but could not add or delete a
    contact.

    2) are you actuall running KDE 4.7 with the 4.6 version of kmail.

    Thanks for your information.


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    Default Re: KDE 4.7 and KMail

    I did the upgrade of kmail and was quite smooth. At the beginning the folders were empty but just right clicking on them and choosing update folder (or something like that) all the messagges appeared.
    The only problem I have seen until now is that when writing a new messagge, I start typing the address and the only suggestions I receive are from recent addresses, not from the contacts. Have anybody experienced the same? Or what could I do to resolve this?

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