Hi,
today I tried to install KDE 4.7 from the repositories. After a reboot KMail2 wanted to convert my emails…, resulting in no emails, no calendar, no addresses >:(. The conversion didn’t work.
I reinstalled KDE 4.6.5 (stable 4.6 repository) and the emails… were available :), but my Kontact appeared in a mixture of german and english >:( (also KMail2 in KDE4.7 was a mixture of german and english).
Does somebody know, how to get german only menue (without some english relics)?
Thanks
Michael
Hi,
I was able to get the complete german translation back :).
You have to replace the kde4-l10n-de, kde4-l10n-de-data and kde4-l10n-de-doc from the upstream release 4.6.5 with the version shipped with Opensuse (4.6.0).
Michael
This doesn’t sound very encouraging… Does everybody have the same experience with Kmail 2?
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:56:03 +0530, wrbbt
<wrbbt@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>
> michaelhust;2369166 Wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> today I tried to install KDE 4.7 from the repositories. After a reboot
>> KMail2 wanted to convert my emails…, resulting in no emails, no
>> calendar, no addresses >:(. The conversion didn’t work.
>
> This doesn’t sound very encouraging… Does everybody have the same
> experience with Kmail 2?
>
not the same, but similar. i can see most of my existing mail & addresses,
but IMAP doesn’t work most of the time. i don’t have time right now to get
into the details and switched to evolution temporarily. something’s wrong
with kmail and/or akonadi & co. used to work fine under KUSC; now it
doesn’t.
–
phani.
Well, in the beginning my old mail folders did not show up. I used “akonadiconsole” to check my settings and “synchronized” them. All folders and mails are there now, nothing lost.
Kaddressbook did not show my addresses but I created a traditional addressbook from .kde4/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf and copied the addresses into the akonadi-addressbook. Everything is OK now, KMail 2 picks the addresses and sends also groups - which was a problem before.
I also entered manually the path for .kde4/share/apps/korganizer/std.ics. OK!
Maybe everything is easier/faster with a new installation - my /home/ has followed me many years and I bet together with some crazy settings. But it did not take long time to fix it.
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 01:08:05 +0530, phanisvara <listmail@phanisvara.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:56:03 +0530, wrbbt
> <wrbbt@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> michaelhust;2369166 Wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> today I tried to install KDE 4.7 from the repositories. After a reboot
>>> KMail2 wanted to convert my emails…, resulting in no emails, no
>>> calendar, no addresses >:(. The conversion didn’t work.
>>
>> This doesn’t sound very encouraging… Does everybody have the same
>> experience with Kmail 2?
>>
>
> not the same, but similar. i can see most of my existing mail &
> addresses, but IMAP doesn’t work most of the time. i don’t have time
> right now to get into the details and switched to evolution temporarily.
> something’s wrong with kmail and/or akonadi & co. used to work fine
> under KUSC; now it doesn’t.
>
seems some type of KDE-fairy visited me tonight. (booting and) logging
into KDE i first received a minor shock because the display was mirrored
horizontally: the toolbar where it belonged, but everything else standing
on it’s head. i remembered that there were X11 and mesa updates yesterday
night, so recompiled the nvidia driver, which brought sanity back to the
screen.
next thing i noticed was akonadi/kwallet asking for my IMAP passwords on
login, and lo and behold, now kmail2 connects to all resources, shows all
mail & addresses, and everything seems to work great, even mysqld doesn’t
ursurp half a CPU anymore.
–
phani.
Hi,
perhaps it depends on the kind of email account: IMAP (data on server) or POP3 (data local).
I had the problems with the POP3 account, where the migration assistant have to/should convert my emails into the acconadi database.
On the other hand, phanisvara had an IMAP account and no problems.
Michael
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:16:03 +0530, michaelhust
<michaelhust@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> perhaps it depends on the kind of email account: IMAP (data on server)
> or POP3 (data local).
>
> I had the problems with the POP3 account, where the migration assistant
> have to/should convert my emails into the acconadi database.
> On the other hand, phanisvara had an IMAP account and no problems.
>
i must also add that i had gone through the migration much earlier. i
switched several times between 4.x and 4.7, and all my emails are on IMAP
servers. the only thing kmail has to take care of are it’s own indexes,
not the actual mails.
–
phani.
Thanks for sharing your experience. What you say is useful to me.
I’m still thinking about going to kde 4.7 or waiting a bit more. Did you notice other problems apart from kmail?
Well, I could not edit the entries in KOrganizer. Took some minutes to figure out that I must choose the calendar in Settings/Sidebar/Show Calendar Manager, the box there was unchecked.
A minor problem - I can only add new folders to existing folders in Kmail. I found the possibility to add folders to the root-folder in “akonadiconsole” under “Browser/Tab”. I’ll wait a while and check what others write about this issue to be on the safe side.
Another minor problem, sometimes I get duplicates of a mail. Maybe a bug or the result from my old settings. Others have this experience too.
Annoying is the fact that I must enter the password for KWallet but maybe I am too lazy, I must only do it after a new boot of the machine. 
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 20:16:02 +0000, virstad wrote:
> Maybe everything is easier/faster with a new installation - my /home/
> has followed me many years and I bet together with some crazy settings.
> But it did not take long time to fix it.
I had two users set up on this machine and kmail refused to start on
both. Kdepim worked fine on another machine and seemed to migrate
everything OK. So I tried a new user on this machine and kmail launched
successfully. Trouble is, the appearance of KDE task bar was a bit of a
mess and there were no desktops available on it; no sign of the four
defaults and so no apparent way of altering “pager” settings.
–
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4; KDE 4.6.5; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210; Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA);
Wireless: BCM4306
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 06:05:02 +0000, Cloddy wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 20:16:02 +0000, virstad wrote:
>
>> Maybe everything is easier/faster with a new installation - my /home/
>> has followed me many years and I bet together with some crazy settings.
>> But it did not take long time to fix it.
>
> I had two users set up on this machine and kmail refused to start on
> both. Kdepim worked fine on another machine and seemed to migrate
> everything OK. So I tried a new user on this machine and kmail launched
> successfully. Trouble is, the appearance of KDE task bar was a bit of a
> mess and there were no desktops available on it; no sign of the four
> defaults and so no apparent way of altering “pager” settings.
Now got a new user installed OK via a new 11.4 install on another
partition, copying what I thought were the files/folders I’d need from
the old user, and then updating to KDE4.7.
I’ve now got my mail converted apart from many local folders. Also the
catching-up process through not using kmail for some time means I’ve been
getting multiple copies of e-mails requiring a click on “take left
one” (or right or both) in a pop-up window. Multiple copies after a few
days / weeks / months layoff is par for the course for kmail and nothing
to do with 4.7.
Calendar seems to be OK but no import of contacts had been performed. I
had to import them from the ldif file in .kde4/apps/kontact/.
I’ve gotten to expect this kind of shambles every time there’s a version
change to kdepim. Might explain why I’ve switched to TB - though that can
also be a pain in its own way.
–
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4; KDE 4.6.5; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210; Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA);
Wireless: BCM4306
I had the same behaviour before. Inspected “Settings/Configure filters” and changed the filters in the “Advanced” tab “from all accounts” to “from checked accounts only”. Marked my pop-accounts but unchecked “KMail Maildir”. Not sure if this was the trick but no multiple copies any more.
Worked for me, thx Bro!
On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:36:03 +0000, v gabor wrote:
> virstad;2370608 Wrote:
>> I had the same behaviour before. Inspected “Settings/Configure filters”
>> and changed the filters in the “Advanced” tab “from all accounts” to
>> “from checked accounts only”. Marked my pop-accounts but unchecked
>> “KMail Maildir”. Not sure if this was the trick but no multiple copies
>> any more.
>
> Worked for me, thx Bro!
I’m still getting the odd pop-up box asking whether I want left, right or
both.
Filters are even more unreliable than 4.4 and that’s saying something.
New posts generally go into the inbox instead of where the filter tells
them they should go. Apply filters by hand and off they go.
I see half my addresses got lost in the “upgrade” so that’s why some of
my mail is spam-filtered when it shouldn’t be. I’ll add them back in and
see whether, as with previous incarnations of kmail, they still get
mistreated.
–
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4; KDE 4.7.0; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210; Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA);
Wireless: BCM4306
Hi,
My experience with KMail2 on KDE-4.7.0 has not been good either.
Initially KMail refused to send any mail which fixed itself after I deleted all of my KMail-related configuration files and re-added my servers.
Now I get frequent Update Conflict dialogs which seem to present two identical copies of the same message to choose from.
Also duplicate, but greyed-out, messages appear in the message list and you cannot get rid of them after you have deleted the valid version.
My bogofilter-driven Anti-Spam filter goes bonkers at times and you can see the Junk folder count increasing as multiple copies of the same e-mail are added.
I can see why this version of KMail was kept away from end-users in previous versions of KDE. I am amazed that it found its way into KDE-4.7.0 in what is still clearly an Alpha state.
My problem now is that the KDE-4.6.x repository probably won’t receive any more updates so I might have to revert to stock KDE-4.6.0 to achieve a stable, updated, e-mail client solution.
Regards,
Neil Darlow
On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 16:56:02 +0000, neildarlow wrote:
>
> My problem now is that the KDE-4.6.x repository probably won’t receive
> any more updates so I might have to revert to stock KDE-4.6.0 to achieve
> a stable, updated, e-mail client solution.
I gave up on kdepim a few months ago when it was still the 4.4 version
and went back to Thunderbird. That wasn’t without some difficulties,
though. The main problem was that TB has an almost non-existent method
for migrating mails from other applications. In the end, it was a matter
of copying the files in mbox format into TB folders and then, if I
remember rightly, into another set. Can’t recall exactly, I know it was
hellish complicated and resulted in one mail missed from each folder -
but I thought that was a reasonable result.
I thought I’d keep kmail etc. updated in case TB deteriorated - with new
versions every quarter like FF I wouldn’t bet against it. I doubt I could
run it for long as it seems to cause xorg to use half my available cpu.
–
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4; KDE 4.7.0; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210; Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA);
Wireless: BCM4306
Hi,
I am sticking with KDE-4.6.5 on my desktop system. This has a KMail that works for distribution lists (earlier 4.6.x releases did not).
KMail2 actually seems to be a real liability. It messed with my e-mail’s metadata such that when I opened my account on this desktop it Spam-filtered all 256 mails in my INBOX again.
I also think KMail2 is not deleting mails from IMAP properly. When you filter spam it leaves behind the e-mail (greyed-out) and it gets spam-filtered again. You can see the unread count in your Junk folder increasing as it adds multiple copies of the e-mails into it. Also you cannot empty a remote Wastebin. They just seem to stick there.
I posted a few dents on Identi.ca yesterday relating to this and they caught Aaron Seigo’s attention. My perspective is that KMail2 should not have been shipped with KDE-4.7.0 and I sense there might be a little embarrassment in the KDE community that it has. Interestingly, KUbuntu are continuing to ship KMail1 with their KDE-4.7.0 desktop and maybe more will follow.
Regards,
Neil Darlow
neildarlow wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am sticking with KDE-4.6.5 on my desktop system. This has a KMail
> that works for distribution lists (earlier 4.6.x releases did not).
>
> KMail2 actually seems to be a real liability. It messed with my
> e-mail’s metadata such that when I opened my account on this desktop it
> Spam-filtered all 256 mails in my INBOX again.
>
> I also think KMail2 is not deleting mails from IMAP properly. When you
> filter spam it leaves behind the e-mail (greyed-out) and it gets
> spam-filtered again. You can see the unread count in your Junk folder
> increasing as it adds multiple copies of the e-mails into it. Also you
> cannot empty a remote Wastebin. They just seem to stick there.
>
> I posted a few dents on Identi.ca yesterday relating to this and they
> caught Aaron Seigo’s attention. My perspective is that KMail2 should not
> have been shipped with KDE-4.7.0 and I sense there might be a little
> embarrassment in the KDE community that it has. Interestingly, KUbuntu
> are continuing to ship KMail1 with their KDE-4.7.0 desktop and maybe
> more will follow.
>
> Regards,
> Neil Darlow
>
two questions:
how are you setting up your distributions lists? From kmail or as
distribution groups under contacts. I have problems with 4.6.5
distribution lists under contact, they just have blank cards when looked
at in kmail 1.13.7. (KDE 4.6.5). Have not tried creating list in kmail,
since in the past it created the list but could not add or delete a
contact.
are you actuall running KDE 4.7 with the 4.6 version of kmail.
Thanks for your information.
–
Russ
openSUSE 11.4(2.6.37.6-0.7-desktop)|KDE Platform Version 4.7.00 (4.7.0)
“release 6"”|Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ,|8GB DDR3|GeForce 8400GS (NVIDIA-
Linux-x86_64-270.41.06)
I did the upgrade of kmail and was quite smooth. At the beginning the folders were empty but just right clicking on them and choosing update folder (or something like that) all the messagges appeared.
The only problem I have seen until now is that when writing a new messagge, I start typing the address and the only suggestions I receive are from recent addresses, not from the contacts. Have anybody experienced the same? Or what could I do to resolve this?