Vote for this bug: Bug 705279 - Fix the LibreOffice

Vote for this bug: Bug 705279 - Fix the LibreOffice

Hello genixinfo,

I’m afraid I don’t quite understand what the bug is.:confused:
When pasting something as “plain text” it shouldn’t contain any formatting.

Edward_Iii,

Summary of the bug:

See how it works:

1 - Open LibreOffice Writer.

2 - Copy text with formatting.

3 - Then, remove the formatting with this function: Edit -> Paste Special ->
Plain Text.

Now does not work:

1 - Open LibreOffice Writer.

2 - Then, type a word.

3 - Put the word in bold.

4 - Then remove the bold, with this function: Edit -> Paste Special -> Plain
Text.

Got it?

Hello genixinfo,

Not quite.:\

This works fine as expected.
I start LibreOffice, copy some formatted text and paste it as “plain text” in the document.
It will show up as “plain text”.

I don’t quite understand the last step.
Do I need to copy the bold text and paste it using the “Paste Special” menu?

On 07/22/2011 04:26 PM, genixinfo wrote:

> Got it?

yes, it works exactly as expected…

if you want to paste in a bold word do not select “plain text” (here it
is “Unformatted text” meaning no text decorations or plain text) if you
want to paste with bold, italiacs, HUGE, underlined or whatever, then
select (here) Edit -> Paste Special -> Formatted Text [RTF]

or much easier, to past in bold etc just use Edit → Paste or
Shift+Insert or Ctrl+v, that is to say if you want to paste in exactly
what you copied, just do what is normal…

only if you do NOT want to carry into the LO doc the font decorations,
then you use Edit → Paste Special → Plain Text which is supposed to,
and does strip out every thing but the plain text…

why not ask here if you have discovered a bug and save the dev’s the
time needed to mark it resolved and invalid ?


DD
Caveat-Hardware-Software
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

On 07/22/2011 04:53 PM, DenverD wrote:
> why not ask here if you have discovered a bug and save the dev’s the
> time needed to mark it resolved and invalid ?

i should have said (and sorry i didn’t): i wish more folks were willing
to take the time to file bug reports because those are VERY necessary
and important to keep making openSUSE and Linux better and better…

so, keep doing that…but, be aware that Linux does not always do things
exactly the same way as they might be done in MS-Windows or
Apple/Mac…and, it is not automatically a bug if things work
differently than you might expect if you are a seasoned user in another
operating system, or even just a different distribution of Linux…so,
be sure and ask around here before you post the bug…

maybe, like this one, it is not a bug just a misunderstanding…


DD
Caveat-Hardware-Software
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

genixinfo, unlike Ubuntu, bugs (which this isn’t) aren’t prioritized by “votes.” Security/critical patches are handled first, and the rest are handled on a case-by-case basis. Please do report bugs if you find them, but as DD suggests, it might save some trouble if you post here first to see if there’s an easy solution.

I believe, be a bug LibreOffice for Linux. For in LibreOffice for Windows, this bug does not exist, the function described above, operate normally.

On 07/23/2011 04:36 PM, genixinfo wrote:
>
> I believe, be a bug LibreOffice for Linux. For in LibreOffice for
> Windows, this bug does not exist, the function described above, operate
> normally.

Linux does not always mimic Windows…and, when it does not, it is a
design decision, not a bug.

another why to say that: if i use LibreOffice in Windows and see it not
past “plain text” when i ask it to, then i will say that that is a
bug…it is sure not ‘normal’ for me.

do you think Microsoft will change theirs to do it right, like Linux?


DD
Caveat-Hardware-Software
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

Dear @genixinfo,

Please when you try to describe a problem (being it a bug or not) keep to the rules how do define a problem:

  1. describe what you do;
  2. describe what happened;
  3. describe what you though that should happen.
    Never assume that anybody reading it has any assumption about the things that should happen. Thus never say anything like “works as expected”, because others do NOT know what you expect, nor do you know what others expect.

Make all those descriptions as extensive as possible. And show what happens, either by copy/paste of the computer session you do, or by screen dumps put somewhere and post links to them. Never assume even one moment that others are going to do what you did and then see exact the same thing happening as what you saw. Omitting the slightest piece of information may create big misunderstandings between you and the other people who try to help you.

Never assume that what you do is understood by others as the “logical” or “natural” thing to do in the same circumstances. Others may achieve the same reults in a complete different way then you. Thus, I say it again, explain, explain and illustrate.

I hope you understand that this is to help you and others to create good cooperation between all of us.

Regards,

I understand.

I’m sorry for anything.

I think if a program is cross-platform, as LibreOffice, it should work the same way and with the same functions on any operating system.

That is basicaly correct imho, but one then has to ask oneself (and may be discuss thie phenomenon with others) on which OS it is correct and on which one wrong. And as we still have no precise description of the action, nor what it does on the two dofferent OSes, nor have the documentation of the product with respect to this subjecct, I don not think we can come to a conclusion.

I think that the Forums here can be the place for such a discussion. I also think that it is allright you start such a discussion. But then you musst start this discussion providing a good bacground (as I outlined above). And maybe we come to the conslusion. But when you press aconclusion onto us. nobody here will support you without further infprmation.

hcvv wrote:

> That is basicaly correct imho, but one then has to ask oneself (and may
> be discuss thie phenomenon with others) on which OS it is correct and on
> which one wrong. And as we still have no precise description of the
> action, nor what it does on the two dofferent OSes, nor have the
> documentation of the product with respect to this subjecct, I don not
> think we can come to a conclusion.

Which also implies that developers will have the same problem with a bug
report - can’t fix what they can’t find or define.


WHonea

You’re right, no bug ( https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=705279 ), but a request for suggestion, feature: https://features.opensuse.org/312719

I’m not clear on what it is you’re requesting. Where does gmail come in? It looks like you’re asking for the formatting to be removed, but on this thread I got the opposite impression. You said you wanted the bold formatting to carry over in a plain text paste.

On 08/09/2011 10:56 PM, chief sealth wrote:
>
> It looks like you’re asking for the formatting to be removed, but on
> this thread I got the opposite impression. You said you wanted the bold
> formatting to carry over in a plain text paste.

correct!

he has been told over and over that he is requesting to break the
feature–you are correct: bold should NOT be carried to a plain text
paste (as it now works).


DD
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

I edited the description of this feature: https://features.opensuse.org/312719

It became more clear?

On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:16:02 +0000, genixinfo wrote:

> I edited the description of this feature:
> https://features.opensuse.org/312719
>
>
> It became more clear?

Not really, no. You edited it to link to a definition of what formatting
is, not what’s missing in LibreOffice (which really should be reported to
LibreOffice rather than the openSUSE project, at that).

Anyone who uses productivity software knows what the definition of
“formatting” is, so linking to a page that defines it is not helpful at
all because it doesn’t specify the problem or missing feature that
you think is in LibreOffice.

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

On 08/10/2011 09:16 PM, genixinfo wrote:
>
> It became more clear?

no, not at all…

by referencing this thread and your early posts here it still looks like
you wish for LibreOffice Writer’s Edit > Special > Unformatted Text > Ok
path to result in pasting Rich (not unformatted) Text into the Writer
document…

as Writer works now is correct (pastes in unformatted text) and it
should not be changed…

i suggest all here who understand how the system should work, vote the
feature request down, as i did.


DD
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

That’s what I mean:

Add a function/button just like Gmail (one click to enable/disable
formatted text)