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    Default KDE often crashes

    Hi to all i am using kde and gnome in openSUSE 11.4.mostly i use kde.last 3 days kde crashed manytimes.during the crash i can't do anything.cursor will not move.can't do anything with ctrl+alt+esc and alt+f2.i have only one option.it is power off my laptop using the power button.some time i use alt+ctrl+f1 to reboot openSUSE.from now it is also not working i have no problem with gnome.how to fix the kde crashes?any ideas?

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    Default Re: KDE often crashes

    What repos are you using?

    Code:
    zypper lr -d
    Try a new user account and login with that, see how it behaves

    Disable desktop effects.
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    my repos

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    #  | Alias                            | Name                             | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type     | URI                                                                                               | Service
    ---+----------------------------------+----------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+----------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
     1 | Linux_Downloads                  | Linux Downloads                  | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | plaindir | dir:///home/vicky/Linux%20Downloads                                                               |        
     2 | Packman Repository               | Packman Repository               | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md   | http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_11.4/                                                       |        
     3 | Updates-for-openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0 | Updates for openSUSE 11.4 11.4-0 | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md   | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.4/                                                         |        
     4 | libdvdcss repository             | libdvdcss repository             | No      | No      |   99     | rpm-md   | http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/11.4/                                                              |        
     5 | mmp                              | mmp2                             | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | plaindir | dir:///home/vicky/Windows7/mmp                                                                    |        
     6 | mmp1                             | mmp1                             | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | plaindir | dir:///home/vicky/Windows7/mmp1/MMP2011-114-32bit-v2-Part1                                        |        
     7 | openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0             | openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0             | No      | No      |   99     | yast2    | cd:///?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-hp_DVDRAM_GT30L_KZ9A5FF0626,/dev/sr0                           |        
     8 | openSUSE-11.4_11.4-0             | openSUSE-11.4 11.4-0             | No      | No      |   99     | yast2    | dvd:///                                                                                           |        
     9 | openSUSE-11.4_11.4-0_1           | openSUSE-11.4 11.4-0             | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2    | iso:///?iso=opensuse-dvd-i586-build0024.iso&url=file:///home/vicky/Softwares%26Games/Linux%20ISO/ |  
          
    10 | openSUSE:11.4:Contrib            | openSUSE:11.4:Contrib            | No      | No      |   99     | rpm-md   | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/11.4:/Contrib/standard/                       |        
    11 | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib         | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib         | No      | No      |   99     | rpm-md   | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory:/Contrib/openSUSE_11.4/               |        
    12 | repo-debug                       | openSUSE-11.4-Debug              | No      | No      |   99     | NONE     | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/                                    |        
    13 | repo-debug-update                | openSUSE-11.4-Update-Debug       | No      | No      |   99     | NONE     | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/11.4/                                                   |        
    14 | repo-non-oss                     | openSUSE-11.4-Non-Oss            | No      | No      |   99     | yast2    | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.4/repo/non-oss/                                      |        
    15 | repo-oss                         | openSUSE-11.4-Oss                | No      | No      |   99     | yast2    | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/                                          |        
    16 | repo-source                      | openSUSE-11.4-Source             | No      | No      |   99     | NONE     | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/                                   |
    i think no necessary to disable desktop effects.i am having 2gb ram and i3 processor.

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    Default Re: KDE often crashes

    You should keep 10
    remove 11

    Why are you using mmp with a online machine?
    or is it online?

    It's a very odd setup
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    now see my repos

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    #  | Alias                            | Name                             | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type     | URI                                                                                               | Service
    ---+----------------------------------+----------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+----------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
     1 | Linux_Downloads                  | Linux Downloads                  | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | plaindir | dir:///home/vicky/Linux%20Downloads                                                               |        
     2 | Packman Repository               | Packman Repository               | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md   | http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_11.4/                                                       |        
     3 | Updates-for-openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0 | Updates for openSUSE 11.4 11.4-0 | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md   | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.4/                                                         |        
     4 | libdvdcss repository             | libdvdcss repository             | No      | No      |   99     | rpm-md   | http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/11.4/                                                              |        
     5 | mmp                              | mmp2                             | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | plaindir | dir:///home/vicky/Windows7/mmp                                                                    |        
     6 | mmp1                             | mmp1                             | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | plaindir | dir:///home/vicky/Windows7/mmp1/MMP2011-114-32bit-v2-Part1                                        |        
     7 | openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0             | openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0             | No      | No      |   99     | yast2    | cd:///?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-hp_DVDRAM_GT30L_KZ9A5FF0626,/dev/sr0                           |        
     8 | openSUSE-11.4_11.4-0_1           | openSUSE-11.4 11.4-0             | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2    | iso:///?iso=opensuse-dvd-i586-build0024.iso&url=file:///home/vicky/Softwares%26Games/Linux%20ISO/ |        
     9 | openSUSE:11.4:Contrib            | openSUSE:11.4:Contrib            | No      | No      |   99     | rpm-md   | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/11.4:/Contrib/standard/                       |        
    10 | repo-debug                       | openSUSE-11.4-Debug              | No      | No      |   99     | NONE     | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/                                    |        
    11 | repo-debug-update                | openSUSE-11.4-Update-Debug       | No      | No      |   99     | NONE     | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/11.4/                                                   |        
    12 | repo-non-oss                     | openSUSE-11.4-Non-Oss            | No      | No      |   99     | yast2    | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.4/repo/non-oss/                                      |        
    13 | repo-oss                         | openSUSE-11.4-Oss                | No      | No      |   99     | yast2    | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/                                          |        
    14 | repo-source                      | openSUSE-11.4-Source             | No      | No      |   99     | NONE     | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/
    Carl can you tell me?how will repos cause system crash?

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    @vike4: For example, if you add various KDE repos, with various versions, it's easy to get a KDE install with a mix of packages from different repos, thus different versions. We see that a lot. In some cases it even resulted in a non-starting KDE. Carl will tell you the same.
    In your case: any package that you put in your "Linux Downloads" folder will be installed during update, if it's a newer version than the one you have installed. Asking for trouble IMHO.

    Don't know what you do with the mmp folders, windoops is to far away for me.

    Can you indicate when KDE crashes? Does it throw you back to login screen? If it's plasma that crashes, can you still do Alt-F2, and run "plasma-desktop" to restart the desktop?
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    Packages in one repo might conflict with another
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knurpht View Post
    @vike4: For example, if you add various KDE repos, with various versions, it's easy to get a KDE install with a mix of packages from different repos, thus different versions. We see that a lot. In some cases it even resulted in a non-starting KDE. Carl will tell you the same.
    In your case: any package that you put in your "Linux Downloads" folder will be installed during update, if it's a newer version than the one you have installed. Asking for trouble IMHO.

    Don't know what you do with the mmp folders, windoops is to far away for me.
    mmp folders is for installing multimedia codecs and other multimedia softwares.Thanks for your information knurpht

    Quote Originally Posted by Knurpht View Post
    Can you indicate when KDE crashes? Does it throw you back to login screen? If it's plasma that crashes, can you still do Alt-F2, and run "plasma-desktop" to restart the desktop?
    it is not a fixed situation.for an example:when Skype trying to start at login

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    Since KDE is very stable on many different systems I work on, I get the idea that you already generated some instablity either in your KDE environment, or the KDE settings in your homedir. We cannot see what's in the LinuxDownloads folder, what has been in there but is no longer etc., so I can't say much about what's causing it.

    There's a couple of things you could do:
    - Create a new user, login on KDE as that user, and see if you have the same instabilities you experience in your own account.
    - Return to the default KDE desktop, sometimes plasmoids are causing crashes. If you want to know how, let us know.
    - Add the KDE Release repo and do a "Switch System Packages to ....." on that repo. That would make sure, your KDE packages are all from one version.

    BTW, I've seen a lot of posts from your side, sometimes it's a good thing to perform a clean install, then make sure you don't take the "wrong paths" you took after your first install.
    Also: try to limit installing packages from openSUSE repos (GoogleEarth, NVIDIA, ATI are exceptions), rather search for packages at software.opensuse.org: Download openSUSE 11.4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knurpht View Post
    Since KDE is very stable on many different systems I work on, I get the idea that you already generated some instablity either in your KDE environment, or the KDE settings in your homedir. We cannot see what's in the LinuxDownloads folder, what has been in there but is no longer etc., so I can't say much about what's causing it.
    In linux downloads i am having some packages like wine,virtual box and skype.i maked that repo to install that packages.

    Quote Originally Posted by Knurpht View Post
    There's a couple of things you could do:
    - Create a new user, login on KDE as that user, and see if you have the same instabilities you experience in your own account.
    - Return to the default KDE desktop, sometimes plasmoids are causing crashes. If you want to know how, let us know.
    - Add the KDE Release repo and do a "Switch System Packages to ....." on that repo. That would make sure, your KDE packages are all from one version.
    i think the crashes are caused by plamoids.yes my all packages are from one version.i will use the version which one is up to date.

    Quote Originally Posted by Knurpht View Post
    BTW, I've seen a lot of posts from your side, sometimes it's a good thing to perform a clean install, then make sure you don't take the "wrong paths" you took after your first install.
    Also: try to limit installing packages from openSUSE repos (GoogleEarth, NVIDIA, ATI are exceptions), rather search for packages at software.opensuse.org: Download openSUSE 11.4
    i can't understand what are you trying to say from the above.should i not search for packages in software.opensuse.org

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