I have ipv6 turned off in YAST because things seem to connect faster without it. Will this cause problems on ipv6 day?
On 06/07/2011 07:06 PM, 6tr6tr wrote:
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> I have ipv6 turned off in YAST because things seem to connect faster
> without it. Will this cause problems on ipv6 day?
that is a real good question!
i also have ipv6 disabled because things ARE faster connecting that
way…but, i went here:
http://ipv6eyechart.ripe.net/
http://test-ipv6.com/
and both say ok…but, tomorrow i’m gonna enable ipv6 and see if things
are all wonderful (and fast)…
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It is al nice and good to enable IPv6, but when you are behind a router of your ISP where it is not on and going to your ISP’s first node where it is also not on, it is of no use to do this.
I have to ask my ISP to switch it on and I have just ordered a new ADSL router which supports it (get it for nothing on loan if I subscribe for another year, which I gladly do). To late for tomorrow 
I may be that your ISP is not offering this (mine is a bit an earlier adopter), but that is exactly where IPv6 day is for: to increase awareness.
I’m all set, and ready to go.
All I need is for my ISP to get with the program. (Fat chance of that)
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Agreed… in this case it’s kind of “if you have to ask you can’t afford
it” since at this point in time you likely know if IPv6 really works for
you since you would have fought for it. There are exceptions, but 99.999%
of the world is not the exception. IPv6 day just means people will be
testing it, mostly alongside IPv4, more than usual and in a big public
manner. Unless you’re on an IPv6-only network you won’t notice anything
in almost any case, and even then you will only notice if you try new
sites that are participating in IPv6 Day by making their sites finally
work with IPv6. Home users, almost without exception, don’t have IPv6
yet. Your best bet to participate is to be at a university that is an
Internet2 participant.
Good luck.
On 06/07/2011 03:06 PM, hcvv wrote:
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> It is al nice and good to enable IPv6, but when you are behind a router
> of your ISP where it is not on and going to your ISP’s first node where
> it is also not on, it is of no use to do this.
>
> I have to ask my ISP to switch it on and I have just ordered a new ADSL
> router which supports it (get it for nothing on loan if I subscribe for
> another year, which I gladly do). To late for tomorrow
> I may be that your ISP is not offering this (mine is a bit an earlier
> adopter), but that is exactly where IPv6 day is for: to increase
> awareness.
>
>
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You have been told there is going be a changeover day? Wow.
(It’s just an interoperability testing day. v4 and v6 will coexist for many years. If your ISP doesn’t give you an IPv6 tail, you don’t need to enable it yet. Your smartphone is more likely to go to IPv6 first, if not already.)
I know they’ll coexist but how will this work? Can I actually communicate (via browser or ping, etc) with ipv6 addresses even if it’s turned off in my computer’s network interface? How does this work?
No you won’t. Only people with an IPv6 path all the way to the server will be able to make use of it. You will be using the IPv4 services. The burden of maintaining both IPv6 and IPv4 gateways falls upon the content providers, Google, Yahoo, Facebook, etc.
On 2011-06-07 23:10, ab wrote:
> Agreed… in this case it’s kind of “if you have to ask you can’t afford
> it” since at this point in time you likely know if IPv6 really works for
> you since you would have fought for it. There are exceptions, but 99.999%
> of the world is not the exception. IPv6 day just means people will be
> testing it, mostly alongside IPv4, more than usual and in a big public
> manner.
Not me.
My ISP does not provide it, so I’m stuck on IPv4 and nothing I can do about it.
I don’t expect to see anything on IPv6 day.
Even more: I took a “recycling” networking course, paid by the state, and
partially by the European Union. Including a Cisco diploma.
We were taught none of IPv6. Supposedly I’m trained as a network installer
and I know nothing of IPv6.
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- Carlos E. R. wrote, On 06/08/2011 12:20 AM:
> My ISP does not provide it, so I’m stuck on IPv4 and nothing I can do about it.
You could play with IPv6 tunneling, but honestly I don’t see the use. I’m pretty sure my little home network will do fine with IPv6, except maybe for the old HP printer.
Uwe
On 06/07/2011 07:14 PM, DenverD wrote:
> and both say ok…but, tomorrow i’m gonna enable ipv6 and see if things
> are all wonderful (and fast)…
ugh! nope, name lookup takes “forever” again…
and, i can’t get to the in focus swimming turtle <http://www.kame.net/>
or ipv6.google.com, so i’m going back to ipv6 disabled in the kernel and
firefox until my ISP decides to play along!!
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ugh! nope, name lookup takes “forever” again…
That is as predicted. Your hostname resolution starts with an IPv6 question to the DNS server. This gets nowhere as you can not reach any DNS server with IPv6 through your provider. Thus there is a time out before it asks anew via IPv4.
It actually depends on the pathway of the IPv6 resolution. You can resolve IPv6 domain names to AAAA records in IPv4 DNS. Thus the initial resolution does not depend on IPv6 transport. However things like broken DNS proxies and resolvers can get in the way.
On 2011-06-08 10:02, Uwe Buckesfeld wrote:
> * Carlos E. R. wrote, On 06/08/2011 12:20 AM:
>> My ISP does not provide it, so I’m stuck on IPv4 and nothing I can do
>> about it.
>
> You could play with IPv6 tunneling, but honestly I don’t see the use. I’m
> pretty sure my little home network will do fine with IPv6, except maybe for
> the old HP printer.
My local network can work with IPv6, my HP printer supports it and I can
see its web page in that mode. The router doesn’t, but any ADSL router is
in fact a router and a switch, and it is the later which is involved and
works, it is transparent.
As to the tunneling, I haven’t bothered to try.
I have not seen anything about this day in the TV. Yet?
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On 2011-06-08 12:06, ken yap wrote:
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> It actually depends on the pathway of the IPv6 resolution. You can
> resolve IPv6 domain names to AAAA records in IPv4 DNS. Thus the initial
> resolution does not depend on IPv6 transport. However things like broken
> DNS proxies and resolvers can get in the way.
This is interesting, because I have IPv6 enabled in my computer, but not in
my router or provider - and I’ve no need to disable it, so far.
So, why must some people disable IPv6, and others not, while both ISPs are
IPv4 only. Is there something we could do instead of disabling IPv6?
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On 06/08/2011 10:33 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> So, why must some people disable IPv6, and others not, while both ISPs are
> IPv4 only.
here (i do not know about there) when i have IPv6 enabled every name
search takes ‘forever’ (that is something over 15 second, and the wait
varies, i do not know way) to resolve…
that is (for example) Firefox reports (at the bottom) “Waiting for
forums.opensuse.org” for 15 to 30 seconds, and then switches to
"Transferring
with IPv6 disabled the “waiting” lasts about one second, or less…
> Is there something we could do instead of disabling IPv6?
i do not think so, i believe it is a misconfigurated name-server in my
ISP’s farm…which is not surprising, as far as i know everyone there
is a Microsoft Certified Button Clicker…only. it is really sad how
completely Redmond has this little country hog tied, branded and nose
ringed…
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Seems it can be slow for some…?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/06/08/tech/cnettechnews/main20070084.shtml?tag=stack
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On 2011-06-09 07:13, DenverD wrote:
> On 06/08/2011 10:33 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> So, why must some people disable IPv6, and others not, while both ISPs are
>> IPv4 only.
>
> here (i do not know about there) when i have IPv6 enabled every name
> search takes ‘forever’ (that is something over 15 second, and the wait
> varies, i do not know way) to resolve…
It doesn’t happen to me.
>> Is there something we could do instead of disabling IPv6?
>
> i do not think so, i believe it is a misconfigurated name-server in my
> ISP’s farm…which is not surprising, as far as i know everyone there is
> a Microsoft Certified Button Clicker…only. it is really sad how
> completely Redmond has this little country hog tied, branded and nose ringed…
I have my own bind server, which queries the router, which queries my ISP.
It could be that my ISP answers first with IPv4 addresses. I don’t know if
bind can be configured to answer first with IPv4 addresses.
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- Carlos E. R. wrote, On 06/08/2011 10:08 PM:
> I have not seen anything about this day in the TV. Yet?
Looks like it was a “Nothing to be seen here” event in the end 
Uwe
You din’t see this one: Connect to openSUSE servers via ipv4 ?
And there are more threads about people not beng able to connect to the repos for some time.