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    Default Some suggestions to 12.1

    Hi all. I'm a openSUSE user since 11.2. One of my preferred distros.
    Most because of this I created a account to post this. Hope can be relevant and good suggestions.

    Since Unity and Gnome-shell come out, opnions about them proliferated about internet, and for what I see, a significant number of negative ones. After reading that Unity will be ported to openSUSE and the pool for the gnome 2 availability on 12.1, one thing come to my mind:

    My suggestion for openSUSE: Make a Gnome 3 interface (based on the gnome fallback mode) with the same functionality of gnome 2 on 11.4 (Maybe take one thing or other from the Linux Mint Menu) as the default gnome desktop.

    Just think about: Some users want avoid gnome-shell and unity, just want the "old" gnome skin/functionality. Well, here we are. With the new interface based in Gnome 3, switch to gnome-shell can be easy ( I imagine) and with some more clicks, you can have Unity. The 3 are based in the same core not is? So make the 3 compatible and can switch between them at gdm can be possible right?

    Another thing that come to my mind, is put all the "One-Click Installers" Solutions (Graphic drivers, multimedia and others) incorporated on the first configuration wizard run (with a option to disable it at installation).
    Situation: After installation, the wizard run: I configure my printers, network and others options and make updates. After this, come as a option, configure the multimedia, switch to the proprietary graphic drivers and in case of gnome desktop, ask if the user wanna the customized openSUSE gnome mode (default) or if not, choose between gnome-shell or Unity (or choose the 2) and install it. For the gnome interface, the work on ayatana icons is marvelous!!! Can use that icons as base for the customized interface.

    Hope this can help in some way.

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    Default Re: Some suggestions to 12.1

    Hi, the devs don't monitor this forum, we are just users, so you probably want to put this in openfate.

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    Default Re: Some suggestions to 12.1

    Thank you for the guidance and sorry for post in the wrong place.

    But for post it in openfate, better wait and look for the opnions from the users here about the idea. If people here like...

    I'm suggesting this because with users of other distros looking for alternatives, this can be a nice moment to openSUSE shine and go to the top.

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    Default Re: Some suggestions to 12.1

    In that case you should probably have posted to Looking For Something Other Than Support, or perhaps Soapbox or Chit-Chat, because this forum is for help with the prereleases and betas, as the title says. You may be too late to influence 12.1 but 12.2 might be possible.

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    Default Re: Some suggestions to 12.1

    Please, The mods can move this thread to the right place? a pool can be a good idea?

    @ken_yap: What you think about the suggestions? good, bad, neutral?
    Last edited by s23; 03-Jun-2011 at 03:51. Reason: complementing

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    Default Re: Some suggestions to 12.1

    I don't have much interest in GNOME so I have no comment.

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    Default Re: Some suggestions to 12.1

    On 06/03/2011 01:06 PM, s23 wrote:
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    > Please, The mods can move this thread to the right place? a pool can be
    > a good idea?


    PM one and _ask_ them to....(none may ever look into this thread and
    read your request herein)

    > @ken_yap: What you think about the suggestions? good, bad, neutral?


    personally, i've not run gnome since about 2001, so i have no input on
    any of your suggestions..

    as for 1-Click installers: i personally think they should all be
    removed, for a lot of reasons: the first being that they are more like
    10 clicks, at least!! (YaST requires FAR FAR less), and another that
    most folks leave every repo added enabled, and eventually that leads to
    problems, often leads to BIG problems; and third, who needs 10+Clicks
    when both YaST and Zypper are faster?? [the only thing better about
    "1-Click" is the name, which is a lie]

    and for more automatic multimedia: i don't expect anything to be done to
    make multi-media more automatic than it is...i think the legal folks let
    us be as close to automatic as they dare already....dead horse.

    note: the developers tend to listen more closely to openSUSE
    contributors than to users with no history of contributions to the
    community..

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    Default Re: Some suggestions to 12.1

    Moving this to chit chat
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    Default Re: Some suggestions to 12.1

    Hi DenverD,

    Thank you for your input. When I was referring to the 1-click installers, is just about the "spirit", not the currently implementation (Not that it's bad). My idea was to offer the:

    zypper ar -f http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/11.4/ libdvdcss
    zypper ref
    zypper in libdvdcss
    .......

    Already at the first run wizard, in a automated way, through ticking a single option in a menu, as occur for example, with the setup for the HP printer drivers.


    Regarding:

    "the developers tend to listen more closely to openSUSE
    contributors than to users with no history of contributions to the
    community.."

    Google Tradutor

    Sometimes can happen that who more know what is best for the users, is the users.

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    Default Re: Some suggestions to 12.1

    This multimedia business you talk about in the installer will not happen.
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