View Poll Results: Would you like to have a GNOME2 LiveCD download available for openSUSE 12.1 ?

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Thread: openSUSE 12.1 : GNOME 2 availability Pool

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    Default openSUSE 12.1 : GNOME 2 availability Pool

    Hi all,

    Sometime ago in a GNOME Team meeting we approached the topic of having GNOME2 available for the upcoming openSUSE 12.1 release. As most people are aware, the GNOME stack is quite big in size and there's some core changes in technology used between GNOME2 and GNOME3, this to say that the main problem regarding GNOME2 availability is actually manpower, in other words, volunteers to make it happen and maintain it.

    I've decided to open this pool to check out what users think... this is merely a poll to collect some information which can motivate people to work on GNOME2 for openSUSE 12.1, but doesn't exist any assurance that it will happen.

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    Default Re: openSUSE 12.1 : GNOME 2 availability Pool

    Hi
    Alas, I voted No... I'm happy with my Gnome 3.0 setup and think we should really concentrate on that for a release live CD. That being said, maybe some of the community members can team up and do what the KDE3 folks are doing to keep that alive.
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    Default Re: openSUSE 12.1 : GNOME 2 availability Pool

    I haven't even tested Gnome 3 so far.
    Just for the sake of an option, i think it should be included. This will benefit most the users that are hesitant to switch.
    +++ ATH0

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    Default Re: openSUSE 12.1 : GNOME 2 availability Pool

    I had been using Gnome 2 in 11.4
    But I just switched back to KDE because I don't want to use Gnome 3 when 12.1 is released. It's slow and clumsy compared to Gnome 2
    Most folk will know I had always been die hard KDE until recently. I like Gnome 2, it's great, quick and trouble free. Gnome 3 will be going thru the KDE3 ->4 saga. I don't have time to fiddle around with it. Hence back to KDE. And I have it running really nicely now. It's very nostalgic

    I'd like to Gnome 2 available as an option in 12.1 though. Heaven help us if the deploy Gnome 3 in SLED.

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    Default Re: openSUSE 12.1 : GNOME 2 availability Pool

    caf4926 wrote:

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    > I had been using Gnome 2 in 11.4
    > But I just switched back to KDE because I don't want to use Gnome 3
    > when 12.1 is released. It's slow and clumsy compared to Gnome 2
    > Most folk will know I had always been die hard KDE until recently. I
    > like Gnome 2, it's great, quick and trouble free. Gnome 3 will be going
    > thru the KDE3 ->4 saga. I don't have time to fiddle around with it.
    > Hence back to KDE. And I have it running really nicely now. It's very
    > nostalgic
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    > I'd like to Gnome 2 available as an option in 12.1 though. Heaven help
    > us if the deploy Gnome 3 in SLED.
    >

    My first impression was (when I played with gnome 3 and its fallback mode)
    that if the so called fallback mode of gnome 3 is carefully configured it
    should be possible to give the gnome 2 feeling with gnome 3. I did not play
    long enough with it to see if it is as flexible as the real gnome 2 though
    to make that possible.

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    Default Re: openSUSE 12.1 : GNOME 2 availability Pool

    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    I had been using Gnome 2 in 11.4
    ...I don't want to use Gnome 3 when 12.1 is released. It's slow and clumsy compared to Gnome 2
    ... I like Gnome 2, it's great, quick and trouble free. Gnome 3 will be going thru the KDE3 ->4 saga. I don't have time to fiddle around with it.
    That's similar to my own thoughts. I use KDE and Gnome2 with different applications, on separate partitions with a shared data partition. The separation is convenient, and as you mentioned Gnome2 is quick and trouble free. I haven't tested Gnome3 yet, but I have no reason to doubt that my reaction would be similar to yours, and also time is an issue, especially with Tumbleweed (KDE) in play on a third partition with lots of regular updating.

    I too would like Gnome 2 available in 12.1 and voted for having the a CD download.

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    Default Re: openSUSE 12.1 : GNOME 2 availability Pool

    Gnome 3 doesn't seem to support my system, so all I've been able to see of it is the fallback mode. Being stuck with the limited version would be a downgrade for me, so I'm voting to keep Gnome 2.

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    Given the fact that despite the pleas from the Gnome community the developers decided to ignore our wishes and requests for a settings option in Gnome-Screensaver, but rather sited some obscure maybe nonexistent security reason. I doubt Gnome 3 will ever be as easy to reconfigure or customize as Gnome 2 was. Their attitude (the Gnome developers) seems to be remove a feature, don't re-implement it. I guess it's easier to maintain with less features, but most of us came from a MS-Windows world and don't wish for a 1 size fits all attitude for our user interface. I guess KDE will get my vote if Gnome 2 disappears completely. I tried Gnome 3 and was very disappointed with the lack of options it gave the user, the 3 clicks to do what I did with a single mouse click in Gnome 2. Come on Gnome developers a desktop/laptop is not an iphone ---.

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    I, too, voted no. I love Gnome 2 and I always will, it was what I switched to when KDE4 was woefully poor on my machine back when the big switch took place. I found a whole new world of things I was missing as a die hard KDE user. I find Gnome 3, especially the shell to be a fresh new take on the desktop. Don't get me wrong, some things need to change, and 3.2 ought to be a fairly featureful release. I'd like my Matrix screensaver back, thanks

    On another note, all of my friends are Windows users, bar one die-hard Mac fanboy, and they all find my Gnome 3 desktop to be quick as well as pleasing on the eye. And I've almost completely convinced my girlfriend that the Shell IS better than Windows' 7 superbar

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    I don't like gnome so I wouldn't say yes anyway.

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