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    Default suse11.4 screen again

    I have written about it before with the upgrade of my old laptop ( further below). Because this laptop was 7 years old I bought a new Asus K52F-SX223V (64bit processor) today. In the shop it booted OK with the live CD. I took it home and installed Suse11.4. After the install it booted OK - did the online update and then the same thing as with my old laptop. Next boot brought only the background - no right click, no menu, nothing. Throw out the GUI with Ctrl Alt F1 and log in. Tried startx -- :1 response:
    Xauth: file /home/uli/.serverauth.5579 does not exist
    Fatal server error
    Cannot move old log file /var/log/Xorg.1.log to /var/log/Xorg.1.log.old
    xinit giving up
    xinit unable to connect to X server: Connection refused
    xinit server error
    xinit failed. /usr/bin/xorg is not setuid, maybe that's the reason.

    This was the same I had before which righted itself without me knowing why yesterday on my old laptop.
    Loging in as root (network disconnected and startx -- :1 worked - as root into the GUI - logged straight out again).

    looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log foung these lines:
    falling back to old probe method for fbdev
    further down
    falling back to old probe method for vesa

    Otherwise the install CD worked without error. MD5 sum was correct after download - I checked before I burned the DVD. Unfortunately the computer is not yet configured completely for the network so I scribbled the items above down and wrote them out again. Any ideas anyone?
    Thanks
    Uli

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    I got a bit further with browsing the internet.
    First thanks to oldcpu with his contribution in these forums:
    openSUSE Graphic Card Practical Theory Guide for Users
    /sbin/lspci -vv showed:

    00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
    Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1be2
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 45
    Region 0: Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
    Region 2: Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
    Region 4: I/O ports at e080 [size=8]
    Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled]
    Capabilities: <access denied>
    Kernel driver in use: i915

    I am still not quite sure what driver would be the right one, but for now I used the Intel and so far it seem to work. Advice for better drivers is appreciated.
    Uli

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    I thought the screen issue is solved. Everuthing was working yesterday. I spend over 3 hours getting the webcam working (with image upside down at first - see laptop forum) and installing skype and everything worked fine. Today the screen problem again! cannot start GUI except from root with startx -- :1.
    Not even failsafe works now and the computer hangs during failsafe boot witjh the last lines:
    Boot logging started on /dev/tty1 (/dev/console) at Wed April 27 20:09:24 2011
    Master Resource Control: Previous runlevel:N switching to runlevel:
    Master Resource Control: Running /et/init.d/before.local
    blogd: system console stolen at line 266 (this line is printed in red)
    blogd: Can not read from fd0: Input/output error

    And there it stops not reacting to Ctrl Alt del or any other key combinations. What is going on. I switched from Redhat/Fedore to suse at version 9.2 and it was always rocksolid and no major problems and now with 11.4 this. I cannot run a system which is starting once and not the next day!
    Any help URGENTLY is appreciated.
    Thanks
    Uli

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    Default Re: suse11.4 screen again

    How did you get it to work before? Did you try the intellegacy driver because you have an older system?

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    Default Re: suse11.4 screen again

    There is a bug report, where some users of Intel Integrated graphics have discovered that the vga=0xZZZ in the grub boot menu interferes with the laptop Linux boot loading.

    You could try, when booting, to backspace that line out of grub boot manager menu, and see if that makes a difference with and without the 'nomodeset' boot code, and with and with out the 'x11failsafe' boot code.

    I sense you are posting that there is a randomness to this working and not working, and it would be useful to obtain a better cause and effect associated with this. Do you encounter this only when rebooting from MS-Windows to Linux ? or do you also encounter this when switching on direct to Linux after a cold start ?

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    Default Re: suse11.4 screen again

    Quote Originally Posted by fuerstu View Post
    /sbin/lspci -vv showed:
    For future support cases, its far more helpful if you use the command:
    Code:
    /sbin/lspci -nnk
    .. and then for graphics look for the line with 'VGA' in it , and copy that line and the subsequent three lines and post here. They provide more useful and succinct information.

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    Thanks, gogalthorp, I used the intel driver and it seemed to work. The laptop is new.
    Hi oldcpu, I cannot copy the lines but I type them out - the network does not connect. Here are the lines.
    "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:3b64] (rev 18) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:1f27] Kernel Driver in use: i915"
    You see that the driver i915 is there even though the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-device.conf file has the lines 'Driver "intel"'
    I have only booted into Windows once at the start. Then installed Opensuse11.4 (clean install) and since then every boot goes straight into Linux. I don't use Windows (unless I need the computer and I haven't got this problem fixed). I had problems with Linux before but not like this where I cannot use the computer at all. I don't assume randomness - however I think there might be something very seriously wrong with the 11.4 version and graphics as I had the same problems with my old laptop after an upgrade from 11.3. Tis laptop had a Radeon graphics card and it seems to be fixed but a lot of things I cannot do there (only 512MB of RAM, etc...). However I have a suspicion: I have a 64bit processor and of course I installed the 64bit system. However Skype runs only on 32 bit. At first I tried to make symlinks but got the response something like "wrong ELF... class....." so I installed the 32 bit libraries required. This might have upset the system as the computer did not start since then and I must admit I have no idea where to look now.

    The menu.lst file has the line vga=0x317. I have now commented this out and booted up again - no change except that the fontsize of the text is larger at the beginning but then switches back after a few lines. (I boot without the splash screen). With the nomodeset the whole boot process has the larger letters and it does not even attempt to boot into the GUI. The startx command brings as before:
    "Tried startx -- :1 response:
    Xauth: file /home/uli/.serverauth.5579 does not exist
    Fatal server error
    Cannot move old log file /var/log/Xorg.1.log to /var/log/Xorg.1.log.old
    xinit giving up
    xinit unable to connect to X server: Connection refused
    xinit server error
    xinit failed. /usr/bin/xorg is not setuid, maybe that's the reason."
    I don't know what to do next.
    Uli

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    I just tried one more thing - I typed modprobe intel (intellegacy, vesa .....) each time i received the answer:
    Fatal module not found. However when I typed modprobe -r i915 the answer was Fatal module in use. So I went into yast to update the xorg drivers. Rebooted and the GUI is there as it should be. What I don't know is how these modules were lost - yast marked them as installed and they worked before. I hope that it is fine now and the modules don't get lost when I install something else.
    Uli

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    Default Re: suse11.4 screen again

    Quote Originally Posted by fuerstu View Post
    I went into yast to update the xorg drivers.
    The last xorg-x11-video-drivers update was almost entirely update for the intel driver.

    Note when the "intel" driver is specified, dependant on one's hardware, the i915 will be loaded. So likely that was correct in your case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuerstu View Post
    I cannot copy the lines but I type them out - the network does not connect.
    I recommend you post in our network subforum area asking for help here. Network/Internet Note also, when logged in as a regular user in a full screen text mode, one can type "su" (no quotes, enter root password) one can type 'yast' and launch the ncurses version of the yast configuration tool, and use it to configure one's network card.

    Quote Originally Posted by fuerstu View Post
    ...
    I think there might be something very seriously wrong with the 11.4 version and graphics as I had the same problems with my old laptop after an upgrade from 11.3. Tis laptop had a Radeon graphics card and it seems to be fixed but a lot of things I cannot do there (only 512MB of RAM, etc...).
    You state 'the same problems'. What problems ? If you installed from same installation CD/DVD that could mean a bad installation CD/DVD.

    Quote Originally Posted by fuerstu View Post
    However I have a suspicion: I have a 64bit processor and of course I installed the 64bit system. However Skype runs only on 32 bit. At first I tried to make symlinks but got the response something like "wrong ELF... class....." so I installed the 32 bit libraries required. This might have upset the system as the computer did not start since then and I must admit I have no idea where to look now.
    I confess I can make no sense out of what you typed there. Do you mean you think that your installing Skype and trying to run it caused a problem ?

    That makes little sense to me. I have Skype running on a 64-bit openSUSE with no problems (with AMD Radeon graphic hardware, and also nVidia graphic hardware).


    Quote Originally Posted by fuerstu View Post
    The menu.lst file has the line vga=0x317. I have now commented this out and booted up again - no change except that the fontsize of the text is larger at the beginning but then switches back after a few lines. (I boot without the splash screen).
    ... and ??? ?Does it go to GUI, or only get as far as run level 3 full text screen log in ? Its VERY DIFFICULT to understand your posts, as I think you are assuming we can see over your shoulder and know exactly what you mean ? We don't know. You need to tell us these things.

    Quote Originally Posted by fuerstu View Post
    With the nomodeset the whole boot process has the larger letters and it does not even attempt to boot into the GUI.
    This is on what laptop? The one with the Intel hardware ? or the one with the Radeon hardware ? Does this mean with the vga=0x317 removed that the X GUI attempts to start ?

    Quote Originally Posted by fuerstu View Post
    Cannot move old log file /var/log/Xorg.1.log to /var/log/Xorg.1.log.old
    That reads to be strange. Such a copy operation should work. Possibly a bad install ?

    I can't tell what your symptoms are ... you have two laptop configurations mixed in here, and describe booting with nomodeset and with the vga=0x317 removed and I have no idea as to what was attempted. Imagine yourself to be someone who knows nothing about your PC nor what you tested, and try to piece together what you attempted. Its not clear !

    As already noted, there was a recent update to the xorg-x11-video-driver rpm, and since you now appear to have managed some sort of network access, its possible the update to that rpm (with its updates to the Intel driver) helped ?

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