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    Default Yast wont start as normal user

    Hi

    I am running 11.4 with KDE updated to 4.6.3 and suddenly I cant start Yast or Software Manager using kickoff. It doesn’t even open the dialogue to ask for root password. I see Yast appear in the panel for 15 seconds or so then it just disappears without opening a window.

    If I open a terminal and su to root and run yast2 it work fine.

    Any ideas ?

    Thanks

    Pat

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    Default Re: Yast wont start as normal user

    Code:
     xdg-su -c "/sbin/YaST2"

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    Default Re: Yast wont start as normal user

    That command just hangs. No output.

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    Default Re: Yast wont start as normal user

    Strange I just rebooted the PC and it works fine now. I had tried logging out of KDE and back in again before but that didn’t fix it. Reboot did though.

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Yast wont start as normal user

    On 06/01/2011 12:36 AM, pcolbeck wrote:
    > That command just hangs. No output.


    what about, in a user terminal

    Code:
    /sbin/yast2
    any output in bash? and did a partially populated gui yast come?

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    Default Re: Yast wont start as normal user

    Yes that work fine now as well. Rebooting the PC fixed the problem.

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    Default Re: Yast wont start as normal user

    On 2011-06-01 01:36, pcolbeck wrote:
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    > Yes that work fine now as well. Rebooting the PC fixed the problem.


    Did you update something recently? Depending on what, you needed to reload
    things. Or reboot.

    The command "zypper ps" warns of that situation.

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    Default Re: Yast wont start as normal user

    On 06/01/2011 01:06 AM, pcolbeck wrote:
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    > Strange I just rebooted the PC and it works fine now. I had tried
    > logging out of KDE and back in again before but that didn’t fix it.
    > Reboot did though.



    i see you have not many trips to this forum but i can't see if you have
    15 minutes or 15 years experience with *nix-like operating systems so i
    feel compelled to say:

    please don't get the idea that (like Windows) a reboot is likely to
    "fix" anything..

    and, please don't get in the old Redmond first team first idea to fix as
    a reinstall, because usually a reinstall is never required unless the
    operator somehow manages to murder the system though improper or
    incorrect administrative procedures..

    if you knew all of that, sorry to mention it..

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    Default Re: Yast wont start as normal user

    On 2011-06-01 08:48, DenverD wrote:
    > please don't get the idea that (like Windows) a reboot is likely to "fix"
    > anything..


    Yes and no...

    When you delete files that are still in use (something that happens when
    doing updates) the old file is not really deleted, not till all the
    applications using it exit. This is a characteristic of Linux filesystems.

    Worse, an application can keep using the old library, and another one
    started later will use the new version of that same library. This is
    inconsistent.

    This situation is detected by running "zypper ps", and then corrected by
    manually restarting those applications or services - which needs some
    experience. It is easier to just reboot, no thinking necessary.

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    Default Re: Yast wont start as normal user

    Carlos E. R. wrote:

    > On 2011-06-01 08:48, DenverD wrote:
    >> please don't get the idea that (like Windows) a reboot is likely to "fix"
    >> anything..

    >
    > Yes and no...
    >
    > When you delete files that are still in use (something that happens when
    > doing updates) the old file is not really deleted, not till all the
    > applications using it exit. This is a characteristic of Linux filesystems.
    >
    > Worse, an application can keep using the old library, and another one
    > started later will use the new version of that same library. This is
    > inconsistent.
    >
    > This situation is detected by running "zypper ps", and then corrected by
    > manually restarting those applications or services - which needs some
    > experience. It is easier to just reboot, no thinking necessary.


    But... Simply logging out (not rebooting) will accomplish what needs to be
    done just as well 99 times out of 100. The only things that routinely
    require a reboot are updates to the kernel itself. Note that if any users
    remain logged on this may be ineffective.

    It's easy enough tell if the simple logout/login does the trick - just re-
    run 'zypper ps".

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    Will Honea

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