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    Question Fresh Install: What to update?

    Hello Forum,

    I have successfully installed openSUSE 11.04_ x64_KDE. I want to update but I am overwhelmed by the number of updates in KPackageKit. There are 182 available updates (40 packages to install and 121 packages to update). Some packages carry a red shield, some yellow shield and some a light bulb. I am assuming that these packages are marked based on the priority and significance. Can somebody here help me decide which updates are absolutely necessary or otherwise? Or should I install everything that is offered to be updated or installed?

    I had tried to install openSUSE before but did not succeed but today I just did it. I was having problems with bootloader, which I finally sorted out. So this is my first openSUSE installation to HDD and I need the forum help in determining what to update.

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Fresh Install: What to update?

    You should trust the updates, they were issued for a reason!

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    Default Re: Fresh Install: What to update?

    I wouldn't use Package kit either

    Open Yast > Software > Online Update

    or use the terminal and do:
    Code:
    su -
    zypper up
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    Default Re: Fresh Install: What to update?

    Quote Originally Posted by ketheriel View Post
    You should trust the updates, they were issued for a reason!
    So I must update everything as it is? Okay.
    However 182 updates are, don't you think, way too many.

    Thanks for the prompt reply.

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    Default Re: Fresh Install: What to update?

    Quote Originally Posted by fantab View Post
    So I must update everything as it is? Okay.
    However 182 updates are, don't you think, way too many.

    Thanks for the prompt reply.
    182 is as many as is needed to update your system.
    If you just want security patches do this

    Code:
    su -
    zypper patch
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    Default Re: Fresh Install: What to update?

    On 2011-05-31 16:06, fantab wrote:
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    > ketheriel;2347080 Wrote:
    >> You should trust the updates, they were issued for a reason!

    >
    > So I must update everything as it is? Okay.
    > However 182 updates are, don't you think, way too many.


    I assume you only have active three repositories: oss, non-oss, and update.
    Then, if you run YaST online update (aka YOU) you are safe.

    I would first enable multiversion for the kernel.

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    Default Re: Fresh Install: What to update?

    On 2011-05-31 15:36, caf4926 wrote:
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    > I wouldn't use Package kit either


    Me neither.

    >
    > Open Yast > Software > Online Update
    >
    > or use the terminal and do:
    >
    > Code:
    > --------------------
    > su -
    > zypper up
    > --------------------


    Warning: what 'YOU does is equivalent to "zypper patch". A "zypper up"
    changes more things and is potentially more dangerous, specially for a
    beginner. Those updates offered have less testing that the patches (those
    in the update repo).

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    Default Re: Fresh Install: What to update?

    On 06/01/2011 02:03 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > On 2011-05-31 15:36, caf4926 wrote:
    >>
    >> I wouldn't use Package kit either

    >
    > Me neither.
    >
    > Warning: what 'YOU does is equivalent to "zypper patch". A "zypper up"
    > changes more things and is potentially more dangerous, specially for a
    > beginner. Those updates offered have less testing that the patches (those
    > in the update repo).
    >


    AH! so THAT is what is going on!

    packagekit is offering, the same as the results of "up" while YaST
    Online Update 'only' offers "patch", yipee! i have been SO confused on
    what was going on, but i knew to NOT let Kpackagekitchensinkandanchor
    touch my stuff!!

    we need to get this info shoved into a how-to (as in How to not let
    package kit kill your system, _also_.) and i think oldcpu should put
    something about this into the new-to-SUSE faqs

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    Default Re: Fresh Install: What to update?

    On 2011-06-01 08:56, DenverD wrote:
    > On 06/01/2011 02:03 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:



    > AH! so THAT is what is going on!
    >
    > packagekit is offering, the same as the results of "up" while YaST Online
    > Update 'only' offers "patch", yipee! i have been SO confused on what was
    > going on, but i knew to NOT let Kpackagekitchensinkandanchor touch my stuff!!


    I've never used packagekit except as a reminder of pending updates, so I
    don't know what it does exactly. But it is not "zypper up", because I never
    do a zypper up, nor the yast equivalent. For example, most of the
    multimedia packages I have are old, I don't bother to update them once they
    work.

    I only run YOU and packagekit keeps silent. Unless you have to configure it
    somehow and I didn't. :-?

    And now it keeps silent because I have removed it, till I can do the
    upgrade to 11.4...


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    Default Re: Fresh Install: What to update?

    On 06/01/2011 03:50 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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    > I've never used packagekit except as a reminder of pending updates,



    i've not used package kit either....i treat it like i treated the
    updaterapplet, simply as a signal that i needed to open YOU and do some
    deciding on what to let in, or not..

    but it was confusing since packagekit and YOU never agreed...i wondered
    why as i marked packagekit to NOT install anything, after i'd used YOU
    to do what i wanted..

    i saw in one of the forums (but have not read closely) what seems to be
    a dev asking for testing help....seems he recognizes that pk is broke!

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