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    Default Prevent Flash capture keyboard?

    Is there any way to prevent Flash from capturing all keyboard input? I'm really sick of not being able to ctrl+l or ctrl+tab just because I'm watching a video, and today a video froze in fullscreen mode and I couldn't even ctrl+f1 to any terminals or ctrl+backspace to kill KDE. It would be awesome to stop flash from grabbing certain key commands and pass them to the browser or OS instead.

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    Default Re: Prevent Flash capture keyboard?

    On 05/30/2011 10:06 AM, sp3wn wrote:
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    > Is there any way to prevent Flash from capturing all keyboard input?
    > I'm really sick of not being able to ctrl+l or ctrl+tab just because I'm
    > watching a video, and today a video froze in fullscreen mode and I
    > couldn't even ctrl+f1 to any terminals or ctrl+backspace to kill KDE.
    > It would be awesome to stop flash from grabbing certain key commands and
    > pass them to the browser or OS instead.


    +1
    same thing happened to me last night...

    i did learn that with enough patience, eventually Flash will let go, and
    i can use both keys and mouse again to drive a wooden stake into it
    worthless heart!

    tell me about your hardware/software...maybe it is a Flash<->intel
    graphics problem, that not everyone is seeing..

    mine is as in the sig, with Pineview Integrated Graphics Controller
    using the open source "intel" driver for 2D and something sysinfo is
    reporting at "Unknown classic (7.10.2)" for 3D

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    Default Re: Prevent Flash capture keyboard?

    I do think it is a "feature" of flash. I use a flash application rather heavily, but it does not let me use the keycombinations for creating diacriticals in the way all other applications in KDE do (I have to cut/paste them from another window). IMHO Flash captures all key-strokes as long as you are in the browser window where it runs. Like the OP says. And when you then have this "full screen", that is the only thing you have.

    I never found a configuration for this inside flash, thus I see no solution.
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: Prevent Flash capture keyboard?

    On Mon, 30 May 2011 08:06:02 +0000, sp3wn wrote:

    > Is there any way to prevent Flash from capturing all keyboard input?


    Click somewhere else on the page the video is running in. I do this all
    the time to get keyboard control back to my browser.

    Jim



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    Default Re: Prevent Flash capture keyboard?

    On 05/30/2011 09:31 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
    > Click somewhere else on the page the video is running in.


    hard to do when in full screen..

    and, i've had instances where it was impossible to mouse click/keyboard
    input anywhere, including impossible to click to close the page, close
    the browser or Ctrl+Alt+Fx..

    it is nasty, but thankfully _very_ occasionally..

    well, for a while some years ago Flash would kill the desktop or the
    browser....so, today's Flash has made some progress....and, as said it
    seems with enough patience (five or ten minutes) the machine is returned
    to its owner, unharmed..

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    Default Re: Prevent Flash capture keyboard?

    On Tue, 31 May 2011 04:03:23 +0000, DenverD wrote:

    > On 05/30/2011 09:31 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
    >> Click somewhere else on the page the video is running in.

    >
    > hard to do when in full screen..


    Usually if you're in full screen you don't need to give control to
    another application. But in that circumstance, ALT-TAB always has worked
    for me.

    > and, i've had instances where it was impossible to mouse click/keyboard
    > input anywhere, including impossible to click to close the page, close
    > the browser or Ctrl+Alt+Fx..


    I see this *very* rarely, and when it does happen, I use a second machine
    to ssh into the one that's wedged up and kill the process that way. But
    it's been a long time since I had to do that.

    > it is nasty, but thankfully _very_ occasionally..
    >
    > well, for a while some years ago Flash would kill the desktop or the
    > browser....so, today's Flash has made some progress....and, as said it
    > seems with enough patience (five or ten minutes) the machine is returned
    > to its owner, unharmed..


    Flash is more or less a 'necessary' evil these days. In some ways, I
    fully understand Apple's stance on not allowing it on certain of their
    devices.

    Jim

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    Default Re: Prevent Flash capture keyboard?

    On 05/31/2011 06:52 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
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    > Usually if you're in full screen you don't need to give control to
    > another application.


    sometimes i might like to adjust the sound volume either by clicking the
    on screen control, or with a keyboard combo..or just stop the video or
    revert back from full screen...sometimes _none_ or those things are
    possible because Flash (plus something, i think) blocks all key and
    mouse input..


    > But in that circumstance, ALT-TAB always has worked for me.


    i must admit after failing to regain control with Ctrl+Alt+Fx i didn't
    think about the old Windows switch application key combo..

    i'll try it next time it happens...

    hmmmm, just remembered that i need to set up the ability to use REISUB
    on this new machine/install....done!

    >
    > I see this *very* rarely, and when it does happen, I use a second machine
    > to ssh into the one that's wedged up and kill the process that way. But
    > it's been a long time since I had to do that.


    yes, it is thankfully rare here also..
    but, i can't ssh in because i don't have another machine and if i did i
    still couldn't get in as i routinely block the install of sshd..

    > Flash is more or less a 'necessary' evil these days. In some ways, I
    > fully understand Apple's stance on not allowing it on certain of their
    > devices.


    yes, but i don't like their reason for not allowing...and i'm not fond
    of silverlight/starlight/moonlight/moonshine or whatever it is
    called...happily looking forward to html5

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    Default Re: Prevent Flash capture keyboard?

    On Tue, 31 May 2011 05:46:08 +0000, DenverD wrote:

    > On 05/31/2011 06:52 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
    >>
    >> Usually if you're in full screen you don't need to give control to
    >> another application.

    >
    > sometimes i might like to adjust the sound volume either by clicking the
    > on screen control, or with a keyboard combo..or just stop the video or
    > revert back from full screen...sometimes _none_ or those things are
    > possible because Flash (plus something, i think) blocks all key and
    > mouse input..


    I think there's probably a combination of apps affecting it, or (more
    likely) just that Flash in fullscreen is swamping the processor. Is your
    system single core, or multi-core (or full MP for that matter)?

    My system here is dual core, and that seems to help with loss of control,
    since flash seems to only occupy a single core, there's something left
    for the OS to actually use for its work.

    >> But in that circumstance, ALT-TAB always has worked for me.

    >
    > i must admit after failing to regain control with Ctrl+Alt+Fx i didn't
    > think about the old Windows switch application key combo..


    ISTR that being used on old *nix systems as well, probably something that
    started at PARC.

    >> I see this *very* rarely, and when it does happen, I use a second
    >> machine to ssh into the one that's wedged up and kill the process that
    >> way. But it's been a long time since I had to do that.

    >
    > yes, it is thankfully rare here also.. but, i can't ssh in because i
    > don't have another machine and if i did i still couldn't get in as i
    > routinely block the install of sshd..


    Of course, that's easy to remedy if you had a secondary system. Securing
    sshd isn't that difficult.

    >> Flash is more or less a 'necessary' evil these days. In some ways, I
    >> fully understand Apple's stance on not allowing it on certain of their
    >> devices.

    >
    > yes, but i don't like their reason for not allowing...and i'm not fond
    > of silverlight/starlight/moonlight/moonshine or whatever it is
    > called...happily looking forward to html5


    I agree, not really happy myself with Apple's reasoning (something about
    that old '80's ad sticks in my mind). I'm OK with moonlight and Mono in
    general, but like you, I think HTML5 is really going to resolve a lot of
    the web multimedia issues.

    Jim
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    Default Re: Prevent Flash capture keyboard?

    Flash is of course not only capturing the keyboard, but the mouse also. I am not be able to copy/paste using the mouse in X fashion in a flash application (it wants me to use some odd keyboard combinations, which I allways forget about and are a pain to use anyhow).
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: Prevent Flash capture keyboard?

    On 05/31/2011 10:36 AM, hcvv wrote:
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    > some odd keyboard combinations, which I
    > allways forget about and are a pain to use anyhow).


    oh, does it expect the EASY to remember windows 'standards':
    ctrk+s (save)
    ctrl+c (copy)
    ctrl+v (vaste) ;-)
    ctrl+x (xit) oh no, i forget also! :-(

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