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    Default Need avice on installing Ubuntu Packages

    I don't want to install anything dealing with the system or KDE, just apps. In particular, I want to install the Ktoon app (and a number of others) that are integrated with KDE but only come in Ubuntu flavor.

    Will it work? (perfectly?)
    Is this going to screw up my KDE installation?
    What should I watch out for when using .deb files for Ubuntu?

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    Default Re: Need avice on installing Ubuntu Packages

    You can't use them.

    Look for the source code and build from that
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    Default Re: Need avice on installing Ubuntu Packages

    Why can't I use .deb or .rpm built for other distros? Isn't that what alien is for? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'd just like to know what the problems are.

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    Default Re: Need avice on installing Ubuntu Packages

    You only mentioned using .deb and not .rpm and nothing about Alien.

    I see the Application you mention KTooN has source code
    This page tells you about what you need etc..
    How to compile KTooN source code | KTooN 2D Animation Tool Kit
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    Default Re: Need avice on installing Ubuntu Packages

    My question wasn't about KToon. My question was about packages and whether I can install .rpms intended for other distributions, or .debs, etc. So far, I've learned that you think they won't work, however, I have yet to figure out why you think this. And don't tell me experience. I'm looking for some insight into the package structure without reading documentation on all the package formats and a bunch of distros. I did a basic google search on this topic and nothing useful came up. So, enlighten us.

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    Default Re: Need avice on installing Ubuntu Packages

    On 2011-05-28 20:06, X61 usr wrote:

    > Is this going to screw up my KDE installation?


    Possibly.

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    Default Re: Need avice on installing Ubuntu Packages

    I want to install the Ktoon app
    What does that mean then?

    I think you're yanking my chain!

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    Default Re: Need avice on installing Ubuntu Packages

    KToon was an example of something I'd like to install from a package. There is also K3DSurf which has Debian, Redhat, and general binary distributions. Once again, any package mentioned here is an example of something I would like to download.

    The bigger question and the reason I'm writing to this forum is to discover rules for what things play nice with Opensuse 11.4 and what things don't. Knowing these rules also implies a knowledge of how packages are structured and what the differences are between distros. My understanding of the package system is that it checks that dependencies are fulfilled, uses some sort of symlinks to figure out where to put files & directory structure and then copies them to that location and registers them if necessary. With an application that might depend on a few common libraries and a small directory structure, I don't see why it wouldn't work. But you do seem to think it won't work. So, if you could tell people more about that thinking, that would be great.

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    Default Re: Need avice on installing Ubuntu Packages

    On 05/28/2011 08:36 PM, X61 usr wrote:
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    > Why can't I use .deb or .rpm built for other distros? Isn't that what
    > alien is for? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'd just like to know what
    > the problems are.


    ignore the advice of those with thousands of post here and go ahead and
    give alien a try...it might work..

    i tried it....didn't work....easier to compile from source..

    now, an rpm for another distro has better chance of working than any deb
    via alien (in my experience)....but, still it is better, faster, easier
    to seek the source.

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    Default Re: Need avice on installing Ubuntu Packages

    On 2011-05-28 20:36, X61 usr wrote:
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    > My question wasn't about KToon. My question was about packages and
    > whether I can install .rpms intended for other distributions, or .debs,


    Because they assume libraries and other files in different places and
    different versions, and because things are configured differently.

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