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    The only reliable information you can get is from the people using it. Not
    from a web page at the vendor which is not up to date.
    So two options I can see:
    1. open a thread where you explicetely ask other openSUSE users about their
    experience with the software in question and on which version it works.
    2. send an email to the vendor (for VMWare workstation you are a paying
    customer) or subscribe to one of their forums and ask the same.

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    idanan wrote:

    > also works under 11.4. For now, that is only VBox.
    >

    Not true I already confirmed that VMWare Player 3 and Workstation (version
    7.something I can tell you exactly on monday) work with 11.4. But you should
    ask other users also about their experience. It is unlikely they come across
    a thread which is about Parallels.

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    Since you mentioned also Xen you might as well be interested in KVM
    http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page
    A cannot give you too much details how it works since I will put effort into
    it not before next month. But I just want to mention it.
    There is support for it and you might want to read the openSUSE document
    about it.
    http://www.novell.com/documentation/...m/book_kvm.pdf

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    idanan wrote:

    > Are you saying you know that VBox and VMWare both work under 11.4?
    > It is officially supported? Or just an accident.... like Parallels on
    > 11.2?


    Pretty much has to be official - http://virtualbox.org/virtualbox lists the
    rpm for openSUSE 11.4, x86_64 or i586 for the latest versions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idanan View Post
    I was not speculating. I went to each site and searched for Host OS requirements. The VBox document is completely outdated apparently.
    Which VirtualBox page says that it's limited to 11.2? The only reference to 11.2 I can find is where it says in bug reports to give the name and version of the distro, e.g. openSUSE 11.2. In any case, a package for download is very strong evidence that 11.4 is supported.

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    ken yap wrote:

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    > idanan;2342822 Wrote:
    >> I was not speculating. I went to each site and searched for Host OS
    >> requirements. The VBox document is completely outdated apparently.

    >
    > Which VirtualBox page says that it's limited to 11.2? The only
    > reference to 11.2 I can find is where it says in bug reports to give the
    > name and version of the distro, e.g. openSUSE 11.2. In any case, a
    > package for download is very strong evidence that 11.4 is supported.
    >

    +1

    The OP is right about the VMWare page, I checked it myself now, they provide
    an incredibly outdated compatibility list which ends for all linux versions
    in 2009 (according to that list ubuntu is supported till 9.04!).

    But first I also could not find anywhere evidence for Virtual Box that there
    is such an old page (maybe a google cache?? or so my first thought) and I
    was confident to proof the opposite:
    But no - I found it, it is the official online manual for vbox which is not
    up to date
    http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch01.html#idp7547360
    It says what the OP claims, compatibility for oS 11.3 (this is what the OP
    wrote for vbox not 11.2 which was for VMWare).

    But beside that, one of the strongest points is that the OSE version of
    Virtual Box is part of the openSUSE 11.4 standard repository and is official
    part of the distribution. I cannot imagine what could be more official.
    KVM is also officially supported by Novell for openSUSE 11.4 as can be seen
    by the document link for the KVM docu from Novell for openSUSE 11.4 which I
    posted.

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    martin_helm wrote:

    > But beside that, one of the strongest points is that the OSE version of
    > Virtual Box is part of the openSUSE 11.4 standard repository and is
    > official part of the distribution. I cannot imagine what could be more
    > official. KVM is also officially supported by Novell for openSUSE 11.4 as
    > can be seen by the document link for the KVM docu from Novell for openSUSE
    > 11.4 which I posted.


    Dumb question, but can you apply the extensions to the OSE version of VBox
    and get the USB functionality to make it equivalent to the PUEL version?

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    Hi

    Well, I have no reason to make anything up. When the first reply I got
    to my question listed a number of VMs, I went to each and every one
    followed the link to the requirements document. I didn't see anything
    more logical to do since that answer also pointed to the Parallels docs
    listing its requirements.

    Now, that is great to hear about VirtualBox. I much prefer something
    in the repo as even Parallel had to be reinstalled forall but two kernel
    updates (I have no idea why, it just would just give an error after all
    those updates). I will try it with 11.2 and if it works for my use cases
    than that will give me confidence to move on to 11.4.

    Thanks again,

    - Itai

    Quote Originally Posted by martin_helm View Post
    ken yap wrote:

    >
    > idanan;2342822 Wrote:
    >> I was not speculating. I went to each site and searched for Host OS
    >> requirements. The VBox document is completely outdated apparently.

    >
    > Which VirtualBox page says that it's limited to 11.2? The only
    > reference to 11.2 I can find is where it says in bug reports to give the
    > name and version of the distro, e.g. openSUSE 11.2. In any case, a
    > package for download is very strong evidence that 11.4 is supported.
    >

    +1

    The OP is right about the VMWare page, I checked it myself now, they provide
    an incredibly outdated compatibility list which ends for all linux versions
    in 2009 (according to that list ubuntu is supported till 9.04!).

    But first I also could not find anywhere evidence for Virtual Box that there
    is such an old page (maybe a google cache?? or so my first thought) and I
    was confident to proof the opposite:
    But no - I found it, it is the official online manual for vbox which is not
    up to date
    Chapter
    It says what the OP claims, compatibility for oS 11.3 (this is what the OP
    wrote for vbox not 11.2 which was for VMWare).

    But beside that, one of the strongest points is that the OSE version of
    Virtual Box is part of the openSUSE 11.4 standard repository and is official
    part of the distribution. I cannot imagine what could be more official.
    KVM is also officially supported by Novell for openSUSE 11.4 as can be seen
    by the document link for the KVM docu from Novell for openSUSE 11.4 which I
    posted.

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    Will Honea wrote:
    > Dumb question, but can you apply the extensions to the OSE version of VBox
    > and get the USB functionality to make it equivalent to the PUEL version?
    >

    Yes
    http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Editions

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_helm View Post
    But first I also could not find anywhere evidence for Virtual Box that there
    is such an old page (maybe a google cache?? or so my first thought) and I
    was confident to proof the opposite:
    But no - I found it, it is the official online manual for vbox which is not
    up to date
    Chapter
    It says what the OP claims, compatibility for oS 11.3 (this is what the OP
    wrote for vbox not 11.2 which was for VMWare).
    Hahaha, that must be job security for the manual writer.

    Office: Hey, Debian Squeeze just came out, you need to revise the manual.
    Writer: Okey doke.
    Later...
    Office: Hey, Ubunty Natty just came out, you need to revise the manual.
    Writer: Yay!

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