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    Default Re: (Recommended) Applications are reinstalled without warning

    Hej,

    thank you.

    I will install Suse with a similar setup on another computer and will see if I can reproduce this behaviour.

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    Default Re: (Recommended) Applications are reinstalled without warning

    Something fishy is happening here. I've tried to hunt down what's causing the java-openjdk packages to reinstall whithout me being noticed, I've installed the sun java packages instead, I've even gone so far as to mark the openjdk packages as taboo, but that doesn't seem to help either. Today I got two updates, first one was two packages marked as recommended, one mesa package and one xorg driver package, no change in yast of the taboo marked openjdk packages, Later there was an update for Google Earth, guess what, after that update the taboo marks were gone for the openjdk packages. And yes though I'm a Gnomer I use the QT interface for Yast. What's going on?

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    hank se wrote:

    >
    > Something fishy is happening here. I've tried to hunt down what's
    > causing the java-openjdk packages to reinstall whithout me being
    > noticed, I've installed the sun java packages instead, I've even gone so
    > far as to mark the openjdk packages as taboo, but that doesn't seem to
    > help either. Today I got two updates, first one was two packages marked
    > as recommended, one mesa package and one xorg driver package, no change
    > in yast of the taboo marked openjdk packages, Later there was an update
    > for Google Earth, guess what, after that update the taboo marks were
    > gone for the openjdk packages. And yes though I'm a Gnomer I use the QT
    > interface for Yast. What's going on?
    >
    >

    There seems to be a related discussion that kpackagekit ignores the locks
    "KPackageKit will ignore package locks"
    on the mailing list opensuse@opensuse.org

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    martin_helm wrote:
    > There seems to be a related discussion that kpackagekit ignores the locks
    > "KPackageKit will ignore package locks"
    > on the mailing list opensuse@opensuse.org
    >

    Just to quote the essential part here
    On 5/19/2011 2:42 PM, Marcus Meissner wrote:
    > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 02:36:18PM -0700, John Andersen wrote:
    >> Just a word to the wise, if you have Locked locked packages in Yast/Zypp for what ever reason,
    >> the little Updater tool KpackageKit that lives in your task bar will erase the locks
    >> that are stored in /etc/zypp/locks and update packages that you may need to remain
    >> back-level.
    >>
    >> Three is a bugzila report (690038) of this already but as of today it is still
    >> malfunctioning.

    >
    > Yes, the PackageKit update is still in the works. :/
    >
    > Ciao, Marcus


    For those that need their locks to survive well meaning staff updates
    you can set /etc/zypp/locks immutable for the time being. Just remember
    who did it and who to blame. ;-)

    As root:
    chattr +1 /etc/zypp/locks

    This seems not to interfere with Yast software update process,
    but removing the lock can't be done in yast till you remove
    the immutable.
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    Default Re: (Recommended) Applications are reinstalled without warning

    martin_helm wrote:

    > There seems to be a related discussion that kpackagekit ignores the locks
    > "KPackageKit will ignore package locks"
    > on the mailing list opensuse@opensuse.org


    To summarize, the consensus was to not use KPackageKit - I gave up and
    removed it from all default actions I could find as well as the toolbar.
    Got tired of removing things every time it ran.

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    Default Re: (Recommended) Applications are reinstalled without warning

    I'm on Gnome and don't use KPackageKit, don't have it installed, the problem must be deeper down the system, probably in zypper.

    the command "chattr +1 /etc/zypp/locks" should of course be "chattr +i /etc/zypp/locks" and that works well on my system, thankyou!

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    Default Re: (Recommended) Applications are reinstalled without warning

    hank se wrote:

    >
    > I'm on Gnome and don't use KPackageKit, don't have it installed, the
    > problem must be deeper down the system, probably in zypper.
    >

    You still have packagekit on gnome - I guess - for the updates?

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    Default Re: (Recommended) Applications are reinstalled without warning

    I see, yes we have packagekit, we just never notice that. And I only looked for KPackageKit.

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    Hopefully those issuses are solved with todays update:
    softwaremgmt-201105 - PackageKit: Update to version 0.6.14 and various bugfixes

    This patch upgrades PackageKit to the latest stable version (0.6.14) and fixes a crash in PackageKit which prevented the update viewer to get the list of pending updates.
    Additionally it fixes a bug where the updates service (PackageKit) would not tell the update viewer application about the current download speed.
    It should also resolve issues with lost package locks (bnc#690038) and improve the issue with packagekitd blocking zypper. (bnc#689627)

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