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    Thumbs down Mono is dead?!

    I really how this is not correct! Does anybody have any additional information?!

    Is Mono dead? Is Novell dying?
    While Attachmate will be keeping SUSE Linux as a spin-off company, Mono, the open-source implementation of Windows’ .NET, is being shut down and there have been hundreds of additional Novell layoffs. So much for business as usual.
    If true, this sucks. I was just working on an ASP.NET application and was happy that I could share it on Dropbox and open it in either Visual Studio or Monodevelop as the Visual Studio offers tools Monodevelop doesn't have, but my Windows machine has only a 12" screen. Meanwhile to be able to open it up in Monodevelop on my desktop with its 20" screen made things much more comfortable!

    If this dies while I'm just getting into it, well,... this just sucks!
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    Default Απ: Mono is dead?!

    First time who I read that. I do not thing that Novel is dying. In my opinion I thing that all projects will remain and will upgrade to better.
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    On Thu, 12 May 2011 16:36:02 +0000, dragonbite wrote:

    > I really how this is not correct! Does anybody have any additional
    > information?!
    >
    >> 'Is Mono dead? Is Novell dying?' (http://tinyurl.com/3u4g64r) While
    >> Attachmate will be keeping SUSE Linux as a spin-off company, Mono, the
    >> open-source implementation of Windows’ .NET, is being shut

    down and
    >> there have been hundreds of additional Novell layoffs. So much for
    >> business as usual.

    >
    > If true, this sucks. I was just working on an ASP.NET application and
    > was happy that I could share it on Dropbox and open it in either Visual
    > Studio or Monodevelop as the Visual Studio offers tools Monodevelop
    > doesn't have, but my Windows machine has only a 12" screen. Meanwhile
    > to be able to open it up in Monodevelop on my desktop with its 20"
    > screen made things much more comfortable!
    >
    > If this dies while I'm just getting into it, well,... this just sucks!


    I've heard that the team was largely let go (if not completely), but that
    doesn't mean the project is dead. OSS projects survive and thrive often
    times under such circumstances.

    I suspect (but don't know) the new management looked at it and wanted to
    know what the revenue stream was - and really, I don't see how it
    provided one, even indirectly.

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    Default Re: Mono is dead?!

    Yeah, I understand about it being OSS and the project doesn't necessarily "die", but I suspect this is a difficult project to maintain, improve and cover your legal behind without a corporate sponsor.

    I guess if it does "die" or otherwise becomes less-than-usefull, I can try out Vala which is based on the same C# language syntax, though it doesn't include a web-based variant like ASP.NET.
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    The Mono community, Miguel de Icaza in particular, seem silent about this. It would be a drag for me too, I've recently retrieved some C Sharp projects that I'd put away for a while, hoping to develop them further, but now I'm wondering if it will be worth the effort, or if it would be worth making a commitment to the continued development of Mono.

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    Default Re: Mono is dead?!

    I say hoorrrrraaaaayyyyyyyyyy!

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    Default Re: Mono is dead?!

    Quote Originally Posted by chief_sealth View Post
    The Mono community, Miguel de Icaza in particular, seem silent about this. It would be a drag for me too, I've recently retrieved some C Sharp projects that I'd put away for a while, hoping to develop them further, but now I'm wondering if it will be worth the effort, or if it would be worth making a commitment to the continued development of Mono.
    Not the least being this was a project he's been working heavily on since before Novell bought Ximian right around the time they bought SUSE.

    I was looking forward to getting into some Mono and being happy to stick with Linux.

    Plus, Banshee is a nice couter to the iTunes & iTunes store with it's Amazon plug-in which also fed money into the Gnome foundation (or Canonical's pockets depending on who you talk to).

    I was even hoping to use Mono to work its way into work!

    Oh well... this sucks. I might have to get my hands on a Windows machine more regularly...
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    Yea, losing access to the Amazon store would be a big loss. There's something written in Python that I might try, but I don't know that it's really a replacement.

    https://code.google.com/p/pymazon/

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    Default Re: Mono is dead?!

    How would this affect moonlight, the open source alternative to silverlight?

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    Techrepublic just says that right now with Novel deal in the works, apple is gearing up for a possible loss of both mono and c# as viable development environments and suggests all serious app development refrain from using or recode if using at least until it is known the full extent of changes that may effect cross platform work.

    @Johnathan_R They didn't really say anything about moonlight/silverlight but did say the Visual studio products will face some alternate OS restrictions as part of the deal. If I recall, silverlight uses some close ties with visual studio products. Thusly, candidates are C/C++, Visual Basic, C#, .asp, .net, Visual C and possibly some others too. It was a very vague text spread over some 40 indefinative pages for what it's worth.
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