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    Default Upgrade from 11.1 to 11.4 Question

    Ok, feel free to go ahead and chastise me but "if it aint broken don't fix it" is what I was going by, but I want to upgrade now.

    Simple question, currently running a perfectly operating 11.1 64bit Postfix Email/Samba server (at home, nothing MAJOR). I want to run the upgrade to 11.4. My question is this:
    What, if anything will break or require me to fix? It's time, since there are no more updates for 11.1 but I don't want to go into this blind.

    Thanks

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    Smile Re: Upgrade from 11.1 to 11.4 Question

    There have been lots of changes since openSUSE 11.1. I highly recommend you download and boot from a LiveCD with your favorite desktop and see what issues you have, if any. Here is an interesting link on 11.1 you might want to look at:

    openSUSE:Evergreen - openSUSE

    I would say that I normally recommend a full install, particularly for older systems. If you have maintained a separate /home area, the install would be more saving of your older setup. I did not start using a separate /home until openSUSE 11.3 came out myself and a clean install means starting over, though you can always back up Documents and such.

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    Default Re: Upgrade from 11.1 to 11.4 Question

    it's not /home i'm worried about, i have tape backups for that. It's postfix and stuff I'm worried about just taking a **** after running a upgrade

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    it's not /home i'm worried about, i have tape backups for that. It's postfix and stuff I'm worried about just taking a **** after running a upgrade
    Well, this is one reason to checkout the system using a LiveCD to determine if any big problems come up. One can always do an upgrade if you are prepared to do a clean install if it does not work. But beyond that, it is hard to say how any hardware specific items might fare after an in place upgrade. I never had any older hardware that was not still supported in the newer openSUSE version. You could list all of your hardware specifications to see if anything really pops up on hardware issues. I have installed and upgraded computers with openSUSE 11.4, none with version 11.1, but a couple with 11.2 and a couple with 11.3. The upgrades worked, but some odd setup issues did seem to exist in the upgrades. In the end, I decided a clean install was the best course of action. I always did a manual copy of my important files to a separate partition. The main issues with openSUSE 11.4 over 11.1 would be how video is handled, as sax2 has been removed and audio tasks are now under Pulseaudio control by default.

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    Default Re: Upgrade from 11.1 to 11.4 Question

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    While I agree with jdmcdaniel3 I was talking to a guy yesterday who had
    done an 11.1 to 11.4 paravirtualized machine upgrade a little bit ago and
    he said it was perfect. Not sure what services were on there but he had
    good luck with it (as well as doing 11.3 to 11.4 several times on bare
    metal boxes). It may be worth trying but I'd probably double-check
    backups and try to duplicate the 11.1 system in a test setup and see how
    its upgrade goes before doing the production box just for due diligence.

    Good luck.




    On 05/10/2011 08:36 PM, jdmcdaniel3 wrote:
    >
    >> it's not /home i'm worried about, i have tape backups for that. It's
    >> postfix and stuff I'm worried about just taking a **** after running a
    >> upgrade Well, this is one reason to checkout the system using a LiveCD to

    > determine if any big problems come up. One can always do an upgrade if
    > you are prepared to do a clean install if it does not work. But beyond
    > that, it is hard to say how any hardware specific items might fare after
    > an in place upgrade. I never had any older hardware that was not still
    > supported in the newer openSUSE version. You could list all of your
    > hardware specifications to see if anything really pops up on hardware
    > issues. I have installed and upgraded computers with openSUSE 11.4,
    > none with version 11.1, but a couple with 11.2 and a couple with 11.3.
    > The upgrades worked, but some odd setup issues did seem to exist in the
    > upgrades. In the end, I decided a clean install was the best course of
    > action. I always did a manual copy of my important files to a separate
    > partition. The main issues with openSUSE 11.4 over 11.1 would be how
    > video is handled, as sax2 has been removed and audio tasks are now under
    > Pulseaudio control by default.
    >
    > Thank You,
    >
    >

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    Default Re: Upgrade from 11.1 to 11.4 Question

    On 2011-05-11 02:36, jdmcdaniel3 wrote:

    > I would say that I normally recommend a full install, particularly for
    > older systems. If you have maintained a separate /home area, the


    That doesn't help at all with samba or postfix servers. The configuration
    and data is lost.

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    Default Re: Upgrade from 11.1 to 11.4 Question

    On 2011-05-11 01:36, misterdrez wrote:
    > What, if anything will break or require me to fix? It's time, since
    > there are no more updates for 11.1 but I don't want to go into this
    > blind.


    I have written several times how to do that, so I'm not going to repeat it.
    You have to use the DVD boot and upgrade route.

    Read these forum posts:

    Applications:

    Re: "/home is a folder, but a file was expected"


    boot-login:

    Re: Upgrade production 11.1 to 11.4?
    Re: Upgrade SUSE Linux 9.2 to OpenSUSE 11.4?
    Re: Upgrade 11.1 to 11.3 - Burn ISO DVD file to multiple CDROMs - Is It
    Possible
    Re: nfsserver failing to start 11.4 upgrade
    Re: Upgrade 11.0 --> 11.3



    http://en.opensuse.org/Upgrade

    > http://doc.opensuse.org/products/ope...ha.update.html



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    Default Re: Upgrade from 11.1 to 11.4 Question

    On 05/11/2011 01:36 AM, misterdrez wrote:
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    > Ok, feel free to go ahead and chastise me but "if it aint broken don't
    > fix it" is what I was going by, but I want to upgrade now.


    are you familiar with "Evergreen" (a project to extend 11.1's useful life)?

    see http://tinyurl.com/4aflkpy

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