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    Hi

    I'm new to opensuse, this is the first time i'm trying it. before this i've used ubuntu, fedora. I'm stuck in a prb, please help me out.

    Well, i have a laptop lenovo G560 that came preinstalled with windows 7 home basic x64, with 2gb RAM and 600 gigs of harddrive and it's got a C2D processor 2.13 ghz. The factory default settings, had c: drive of around 550 gb, 100 mb windows reserve for boot i guess, n 29 bg was for lenovo drivers n applications, n the last partition that was of 15 gb had OEM image.

    Initially, the problem was i was not able to find the primary partition, so i deleted the lenovo partition, n shrinked c: drive to 350 gb, n i had an allocated partition of 224 gb i guess. I did the installation of Opensuse on that partition.

    It showed me the error "The bootloader is installed on a partition that does not lie entierly below 128 gb. The system might not boot if BIOS support only lba24(result is error 18 during install grub MBR)". I simply ignored and carried on with the installation. It installed and it worked too. The moment i shutdown the machine and tried to restart it, i codn't even move beyond the boot screen, i tried to press F2 to go to the setup page, F12 to change the boot order, computer froze none worked.

    Now, my machine is gone, i'm gonna remove the disk n try to format it.

    Well, what i want to know what does that error mean, does it mean my opensuse boot partition should be less than 128 gb, what i'm reading is kind of very confusing, such as in these links,

    128 gb boot error

    what i did not understand in this link was,
    If you have room for a small /boot partition that is still under 128GB from the beginning of the disk (not under 128GB in size), then make that during the install.

    opensuse 11.3 installation gives me grub error with 128GB limit

    In here they say for new BIOS you can ignore this problem, but mine is a new one, and it still did not function.

    boot loader below 128GB?

    These were some of the links, so can someone help me out what does this mean, boot partition should be less than 128 gb, does this mean that my c: drive and my linux boot partition, in total should be less than 128 gb, will i be able to install opensuse on 220 gb, honestly speaking i jus go with the default configuration during linux installation, if somethin needs to be changed at that time, please help me with it, and do i have to shrink my c: drive further help me with that too.. thanking advance...

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    Default Re: 128 gb error machine won't boot. even not able to access the bios so taht i can boot from dvd

    The moment i shutdown the machine and tried to restart it, i codn't even move beyond the boot screen, i tried to press F2 to go to the setup page, F12 to change the boot order, computer froze none worked.
    Perhaps tap the key continuously immediately after boot/reboot starts, you need to get there before the boot loader begins loading.

    The 128gb boot loader message is just that, a message, some older BIOSes may have an issue, yours shouldn't.
    Can you boot from a liveCD and as su - show us
    Code:
    fdisk -l
    please use code tags.

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    Default Re: 128 gb error machine won't boot. even not able to access the bios so taht i can boot from dvd

    Also from the liveCD can you navigate to /boot/grub/menu.lst of the installed system and post the contents here in code tags.

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    Default Re: 128 gb error machine won't boot. even not able to access the bios so taht i can boot from dvd

    Quote Originally Posted by dvhenry View Post
    Also from the liveCD can you navigate to /boot/grub/menu.lst of the installed system and post the contents here in code tags.
    HI henry, thanks for the reply, no i've tried everything, its not even starting. it just gets stuck at the black screen.

    I've tried tapping the key continuously, it'll show entering setup and it'll freeze there. Then when i press key, pressing any key makes a super loud beep. Can u tell me what this 128 gb thing is exactly in simple terms.

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    HI henry, thanks for the reply, no i've tried everything, its not even starting. it just gets stuck at the black screen.
    You can't even boot a liveCD?

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    Default Re: 128 gb error machine won't boot. even not able to access the bios so taht i can boot from dvd

    Quote Originally Posted by lavi0007 View Post
    HI henry, thanks for the reply, no i've tried everything, its not even starting. it just gets stuck at the black screen.
    It could be graphics ?

    Did you read the openSUSE-11.4 release notes ? ie Did you try booting with the boot code 'nomodeset' ?

    Did you try booting with the boot code 'x11failsafe' ?

    Did you try booting by selecting the FailSafe option?

    I can't be more specific without knowing what graphic hardware is in your lenovo g560. Is it a hybrid graphic laptop with 2 graphic devices ? Does it have only one graphic device ? What is/are the graphic device(s) ? I've read it could be an Integrated Media 4500MHD or even a nVida GeForce G310M (or both if hybrid). http://www.linlap.com/wiki/lenovo+g560

    If it is a hybrid graphic PC it could be tricky, and IMHO your best bet there is to go into BIOS and try to switch OFF one of the graphic devices.

    But this is all speculation without further guidance from you.

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    Default Re: 128 gb error machine won't boot. even not able to access the bios so taht i can boot from dvd

    I've tried tapping the key continuously, it'll show entering setup and it'll freeze there. Then when i press key, pressing any key makes a super loud beep.
    Have you tried powering it down completely, walking away for 5 minutes then rebooting? It may sound silly but I have had some unexpected results when some data is still in RAM (yes, that's a long shot, but?).

    Can u tell me what this 128 gb thing is exactly in simple terms.
    This quote by @iwfinger from one of the links you provided probably explains better than I can

    The warning is there because the disk driver in some BIOS codes cannot read
    above that boundary. Newer machines do not have this restriction and yours
    should not, but Linux tries to work on all machines.

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    Default Re: 128 gb error machine won't boot. even not able to access the bios so taht i can boot from dvd

    I've tried tapping the key continuously, it'll show entering setup and it'll freeze there.
    You are talking about entering BIOS setup?,,, Aren't you?

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    Default Re: 128 gb error machine won't boot. even not able to access the bios so taht i can boot from dvd

    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    It could be graphics ?

    Did you read the openSUSE-11.4 release notes ? ie Did you try booting with the boot code 'nomodeset' ?

    Did you try booting with the boot code 'x11failsafe' ?

    Did you try booting by selecting the FailSafe option?

    I can't be more specific without knowing what graphic hardware is in your lenovo g560. Is it a hybrid graphic laptop with 2 graphic devices ? Does it have only one graphic device ? What is/are the graphic device(s) ? I've read it could be an Integrated Media 4500MHD or even a nVida GeForce G310M (or both if hybrid). Lenovo G560 [LinLap - Linux Laptop Wiki]

    If it is a hybrid graphic PC it could be tricky, and IMHO your best bet there is to go into BIOS and try to switch OFF one of the graphic devices.

    But this is all speculation without further guidance from you.
    Hi oldcpu, it is having jus one graphic device, to show u the configuration, the device has to atleast move a bit, i cannot get past BIOS screen, the laptop freezes then n there no matter wat i try. And i would like to tell you, when i installed opensuse 11.4, it worked, i was able to work on it very well, the moment i restarted the machine, it never worked.

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    Default Re: 128 gb error machine won't boot. even not able to access the bios so taht i can boot from dvd

    Hi oldcpu and henry, you've gone through all the details i've mentioned there, i would like to mention few things, that you should consider:

    1. Graphics is not a problem, coz it worked pretty well.
    2. Please consider that error, 128 gb one, coz it seems like BIOS is not able to detect harddrive after that and it seemed to me as if BIOS crashed (I don't know if this term really exists or not).
    3. If i reformat the machine by moving the harddisk to someother machine n formatting it, i'm sure, i'll be able to restore the things. But, the answer to that 128 gb not being supported by BIOS remains unanswered. What is that issue and how to get past it.

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