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    Default Re: So no gui configuration for displays/video exists anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlameBait
    Well I have gone through YAST and all the configuration items and can't
    see where you obtain the god like powers to enable two displays.
    It's pretty much the same in Ubuntu 11.04 though which I installed
    yesterday on a spare drive. It was totally clueless about the second
    monitor as well.

    This is what I have one monitor ( the main monitor ) 1920 x 1080 at 60
    Hz and (the second montior) one at 1366X768 at 60 Hz.
    I want them set at different resolutions not both at 1366X768.

    KDE "Personal Settings"> "Display and Monitor"> "Mutiple Monitors"
    shows only the 1920X1080 monitor and tells me I have no more monitors.
    "Configure Nvidia X Settings"> "X Server Display Configuration" Shows
    the second monitor as disabled but detects it.
    It will not detect where and what filename it's supposed to change and
    even if it did it would not be able to change anything in etc/X11/ as
    it's not got those rights and I see no way to obtain them even if I knew
    the proper directory and filename.
    YAST has no dual monitor configuration tool.

    I need an answer besides X11 and KDE 4 is broken.

    Hi
    All I did was set the no kms in /etc/sysconfig and booted with
    nomodeset in grub options, then dropped to runlevel 3 and installed
    the nvidia driver then back to the desktop and ran gnomesu
    nvidia-settings to configure the two monitors and create
    the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.

    Currently running 1280x1024 as primary, secondary is 1680x1050.

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    Default Re: So no gui configuration for displays/video exists anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    All I did was set the no kms in /etc/sysconfig and booted with
    nomodeset in grub options, then dropped to runlevel 3 and installed
    the nvidia driver then back to the desktop and ran gnomesu
    nvidia-settings to configure the two monitors and create
    the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.

    Currently running 1280x1024 as primary, secondary is 1680x1050.

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    Why are these "no kms in /etc/sysconfig and booted with
    nomodeset in grub options" incatations necessary when the nvidia stuff can be installed from YAST Software Management?

    What does the ability to successfully edit grub have to do with my ability to run two monitors? Not trying to be a smart ass but I want to know "why". You see I need to disconnect two other hard drives again so I can muck with grub and make sure it doesn't touch the mbr or any other parts of those other drives all while hoping I don't muck up grub and become unbootable. I seem to have a Nvidia drive installed and I beleive I am using it right now. Are you saying that I may not be as well?
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    Default Re: So no gui configuration for displays/video exists anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlameBait View Post
    Well I have gone through YAST and all the configuration items and can't see where you obtain the god like powers to enable two displays.
    It's pretty much the same in Ubuntu 11.04 though which I installed yesterday on a spare drive. It was totally clueless about the second monitor as well.

    This is what I have one monitor ( the main monitor ) 1920 x 1080 at 60 Hz and (the second montior) one at 1366X768 at 60 Hz.
    I want them set at different resolutions not both at 1366X768.

    KDE "Personal Settings"> "Display and Monitor"> "Mutiple Monitors" shows only the 1920X1080 monitor and tells me I have no more monitors.
    "Configure Nvidia X Settings"> "X Server Display Configuration" Shows the second monitor as disabled but detects it.
    It will not detect where and what filename it's supposed to change and even if it did it would not be able to change anything in etc/X11/ as it's not got those rights and I see no way to obtain them even if I knew the proper directory and filename.
    YAST has no dual monitor configuration tool.

    I need an answer besides X11 and KDE 4 is broken.
    When you go to "Personal Settings"> "Display and Monitor">Size and Orientations. can you see the 2 monitors ?

    BTW, is the second monitor plugged in and powered when you restart your computer ?
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    Default Re: So no gui configuration for displays/video exists anymore?

    Hi,

    when you say that the Nvidia tool can't save anything, you know that you should be running it as root, right?

    If you don't it indeed can't write the new config file.

    HTH

    Lenwolf

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    Default Re: So no gui configuration for displays/video exists anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Argoson View Post
    When you go to "Personal Settings"> "Display and Monitor">Size and Orientations. can you see the 2 monitors ?

    BTW, is the second monitor plugged in and powered when you restart your computer ?
    Yes I can see both monitors and I have had the monitor turned on the whole time (booting wiht it on) I have been trying to configure it.
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    Default Re: So no gui configuration for displays/video exists anymore?

    Following malcolmlewis's general outline I was able to get the second monitor going using kdesu nvidia settings in place of gnomesu and saving the file as /etc/x11.conf

    If I enable a separate x session for each monitor I get no keyboard input on the second monitor. If I disable a saparate x session I lose my view of "that desktop" when I switch to one of the other six desktops I have enabled on that machine.

    I would love to be running different x-sessions and have keyboard focus follow the mouse.


    Thanks to everyone.
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    Default Re: So no gui configuration for displays/video exists anymore?

    On 2011-05-05 07:06, FlameBait wrote:
    > Why are these "no kms in /etc/sysconfig and booted with
    > nomodeset in grub options" incatations necessary when the nvidia stuff
    > can be installed from YAST Software Management?


    http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers
    http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Configuring_graphics_cards

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    Default Re: So no gui configuration for displays/video exists anymore?

    On 05/04/2011 09:06 PM, FlameBait wrote:
    >
    > malcolmlewis;2335186 Wrote:
    >> Hi
    >> All I did was set the no kms in /etc/sysconfig and booted with
    >> nomodeset in grub options, then dropped to runlevel 3 and installed
    >> the nvidia driver then back to the desktop and ran gnomesu
    >> nvidia-settings to configure the two monitors and create
    >> the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
    >>
    >> Currently running 1280x1024 as primary, secondary is 1680x1050.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Cheers Malcolm (Linux Counter #276890)
    >> openSUSE 11.4 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.37.6-0.5-desktop
    >> up 1 day 11:53, 5 users, load average: 0.09, 0.07, 0.06
    >> GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 270.41.06

    >
    > Why are these "no kms in /etc/sysconfig and booted with
    > nomodeset in grub options" incatations necessary when the nvidia stuff
    > can be installed from YAST Software Management?


    Because with the complexity of writing for all the different
    combinations of systems out there. No way to test it all. Just too
    many variables.

    > What does the ability to successfully edit grub have to do with my
    > ability to run two monitors? Not trying to be a smart ass but I want to


    You're making system changes, not just user desktop settings. Since
    you're doing it globally, you need to edit system files. You're telling
    the kernel an X to 'boot up like this...'. You typically do that in the
    /boot/grub/menu.lst.


    > know "why". You see I need to disconnect two other hard drives again so
    > I can muck with grub and make sure it doesn't touch the mbr or any other
    > parts of those other drives all while hoping I don't muck up grub and
    > become unbootable. I seem to have a Nvidia drive installed and I beleive
    > I am using it right now. Are you saying that I may not be as well?


    Not sure why you would need to disconnect drives to edit grub. If you
    want to test it on a one time basis w/o editing sysconfig files when you
    boot just add nomodeset to the arguments line on the login screen. If
    it works and you want to make it permanent, su to root, cd to
    /boot/grub/ and edit menu.lst. No need to disconnect drives to do that.
    Actually, you can even set the grub line via the sysconfig editor in
    YaST as well. Forget the exact name of the place to set it (I'm on a
    Debian system at the moment) but it's not hard to find.

    HTH...

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