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    Question gam_server - blocks the system over 15 minutes

    Hello,

    I don't know, if this is the right place for this question - but I find no better place.

    Since the last Versions of openSUSE 11.3 and now with openSUSE 11.4 with KR46, I've a blocking system sometimes with all memory used (especially swap). KDE Hangs only the mouse works. The Harddisk is 100% used (HDD LED is always on). This blocking is about 5 minutes and 30 minutes. In this time only very minimum work is going on. If I switch with <ctrl>+<shift>+<F2> to the tty, a lock in needs 3 times (the password request is after the time out). top shows only 5% load with "gam_server" (first or secound entry -> most system load).

    System information:
    AMD 9450e Quad-Core
    ATI RS880 Radeon
    Seagate Barracuda ST3160021A
    4GByte RAM
    1GByte SWAP
    All Community Repositorys
    additional tumbleweed and KDE KR46 Repositorys
    /home mounted via NFS-client and users used over NIS-client (Server = openSUSE 11.3)
    no useable entry in the logs (only standard outputs)

    Ciao
    Ulf

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    Default Re: gam_server - blocks the system over 15 minutes

    hard to tell what you have done if you have the repos's you say. Post output of

    zypper lr -d

    Mixing repos can lead to strange problems.

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    Default Re: gam_server - blocks the system over 15 minutes

    On 05/04/2011 10:06 PM, ulfbart wrote:
    >
    > All Community Repositorys
    > additional tumbleweed and KDE KR46 Repositorys


    sounds like a problem that should be in the new tumbleweed forum, here:
    http://forums.opensuse.org/english/g...re/tumbleweed/

    or maybe on the mail list, as invited here:
    http://tinyurl.com/69mj3zj

    but, actually i wonder if you read any of the information on how to use
    move to tumbleweed and how to manage your repos to _not_ load in
    conflicting software....i think you may need to do some reading in the
    two cites above, and try to get back to a stable system, somehow..

    [but, i'm not a Tumbleweed guru!]

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    Default Re: gam_server - blocks the system over 15 minutes

    According to Google, gam_server is the server side part of Gamin which is a Gnome FAM (File Alteration Monitor) module. According to my machine, for openSUSE this is provided by Packman Repository and since it's not already installed in my openSUSE/KDE machine I suppose you're running either Gnome Desktop or a Gnome app that requires Gamin. I know that openSUSE/KDE implements FAM but without this module.

    So, it sounds like your module is indexing/scanning your system at an inconvenient time (best done at night or as a slow background process with low priority).

    I recommend you start by looking at the configuration page at the Gamin Project site
    Gamin the File Alteration Monitor

    When I installed the Packman Gamin module, it didn't install a MAN page, if you need to see what it would say
    Man Page for gam_server (All Section 1) - The UNIX and Linux Forums

    If configuration doesn't work(I can Google complaints) I assume your problem would still be addressed by assigning the gam_server application a low priority NICE value.

    HTH,
    Tony

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    Default Re: gam_server - blocks the system over 15 minutes

    Code:
    # zypper lr -d
    #  | Alias                                               | Name                                                 | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                                                          | Service
    ---+-----------------------------------------------------+------------------------------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
     1 | Application:Geo                                     | Application:Geo                                      | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Application:/Geo/openSUSE_11.4/                                    |        
     2 | Documentation_Tools                                 | Documentation_Tools                                  | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Documentation:/Tools/openSUSE_11.4/                                |        
     3 | MalcomLewis                                         | MalcomLewis                                          | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/malcolmlewis:/Python/openSUSE_11.4                           |        
     4 | Printing                                            | Printing                                             | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Printing/openSUSE_11.4/                                            |        
     5 | download.nvidia.com-opensuse_1                      | NVIDIA Repository                                    | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.4/                                                                     |        
     6 | download.opensuse.org-Apps_1                        | openSUSE BuildService - GNOME:Anwendungen            | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Apps/openSUSE_11.4/                                         |        
     7 | download.opensuse.org-Banshee_1                     | openSUSE BuildService - Banshee                      | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Banshee/openSUSE_11.4/                                             |        
     8 | download.opensuse.org-Community_1                   | openSUSE BuildService - Mono:Community               | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Mono:/Community/openSUSE_11.4/                                     |        
     9 | download.opensuse.org-Education_1                   | openSUSE BuildService - Education                    | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education/openSUSE_11.4/                                           |        
    10 | download.opensuse.org-Extra_1                       | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Extra                    | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_11.4/                                          |        
    11 | download.opensuse.org-STABLE_1                      | openSUSE BuildService - OpenOffice.org               | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/STABLE/openSUSE_11.4/                              |        
    12 | download.opensuse.org-UpdatedApps_1                 | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:UpdatedApps              | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/UpdatedApps/openSUSE_11.4/                                    |        
    13 | download.opensuse.org-Wine_1                        | openSUSE BuildService - Wine-CVS-Pakete              | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Emulators:/Wine/openSUSE_11.4/                                     |        
    14 | download.opensuse.org-database_1                    | openSUSE BuildService - Datenbank                    | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/database/openSUSE_11.4/                                    |        
    15 | download.opensuse.org-filesystems_1                 | openSUSE BuildService - filesystems                  | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/filesystems/openSUSE_11.4/                                         |        
    16 | download.opensuse.org-games_1                       | openSUSE BuildService - Spiele                       | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/games/openSUSE_11.4/                                               |        
    17 | download.opensuse.org-lxde_1                        | openSUSE BuildService - LXDE                         | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/lxde/openSUSE_11.4/                                           |        
    18 | download.opensuse.org-mozilla_1                     | openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla                      | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.4/                                             |        
    19 | download.opensuse.org-non-oss                       | Haupt-Repository (NON-OSS)                           | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.4/repo/non-oss/                                                 |        
    20 | download.opensuse.org-openSUSE_11.4_Update_standard | openSUSE BuildService - Virtualisierung (VirtualBox) | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Virtualization:/VirtualBox_backports/openSUSE_11.4_Update_standard |        
    21 | download.opensuse.org-oss_2                         | Haupt-Repository (DEBUG)                             | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/                                               |        
    22 | download.opensuse.org-oss_3                         | Haupt-Repository (OSS)                               | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/                                                     |        
    23 | download.opensuse.org-oss_4                         | Haupt-Repository (Quellen)                           | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/                                              |        
    24 | download.opensuse.org-packages                      | openSUSE BuildService - Java:packages                | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Java:/packages/openSUSE_11.4/                                      |        
    25 | download.opensuse.org-perl                          | openSUSE BuildService - devel:languages:perl         | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/perl/openSUSE_11.4/                              |        
    26 | download.opensuse.org-php_1                         | openSUSE BuildService - PHP                          | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/php/openSUSE_11.4/                                         |        
    27 | download.opensuse.org-python_1                      | openSUSE BuildService - devel:languages:python       | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/python/openSUSE_11.4/                            |        
    28 | download.opensuse.org-standard_1                    | Main Repository (Contrib)                            | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/11.4:/Contrib/standard/                                  |        
    29 | download.opensuse.org-update                        | Update Repository (DEBUG)                            | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/11.4/                                                              |        
    30 | download.opensuse.org-update_1                      | Hauptaktualisierungs-Repository                      | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.4/                                                                    |        
    31 | download.opensuse.org-webcam_1                      | openSUSE BuildService - Treiber fr Web-Cams         | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/drivers:/webcam/openSUSE_11.4/                                     |        
    32 | download.videolan.org-SuSE                          | VideoLan Repository                                  | Yes     | Yes     |   40     | rpm-md | http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/11.4/                                                     |        
    33 | ftp.uni-erlangen.de-suse_1                          | Packman Repository                                   | Yes     | Yes     |  101     | rpm-md | http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/packman/suse/openSUSE_11.4/                                           |        
    34 | multimedia:apps                                     | multimedia:apps                                      | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/apps/openSUSE_11.4/                                    |        
    35 | multimedia:libs                                     | multimedia:libs                                      | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/libs/openSUSE_11.4/                                    |        
    36 | multimedia:photo                                    | multimedia:photo                                     | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/photo/openSUSE_11.4/                                   |        
    37 | openSUSE-11.3 11.3-1.82                             | openSUSE-11.3 11.3-1.82                              | No      | No      |  100     | yast2  | cd:///?devices=/dev/sr0                                                                                      |        
    38 | openSUSE-Education Updates                          | openSUSE-Education Updates                           | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://www.opensuse-education.org/download/updates/1.0/11.4                                                  |        
    39 | openSUSE_11.4_KR46_Core_packages                    | openSUSE 11.4 KR46 Core packages                     | Yes     | Yes     |   97     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/46/openSUSE_11.4/                                    |        
    40 | openSUSE_11.4_KR46_Unstable:Playground              | openSUSE 11.4 KR46 Unstable:Playground               | Yes     | Yes     |  107     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Unstable:/Playground/KDE_Release_46_openSUSE_11.4/            |        
    41 | openSUSE_11.4_Packmann_Tumbleweed                   | openSUSE 11.4 Packmann Tumbleweed                    | Yes     | Yes     |   42     | rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/Essentials/                                                 |        
    42 | opensuse-guide.org-repo                             | libdvdcss repository                                 | No      | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/11.4/                                                                         |        
    43 | rbos_JFritz                                         | rbos JFritz                                          | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/rbos/openSUSE_11.4                                           |        
    44 | repo-11.4-update                                    | openSUSE-11.4 Updates                                | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.4/                                                                    |        
    45 | tumbleweed                                          | tumbleweed                                           | Yes     | Yes     |   50     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/                                     |        
    46 | www2.ati.com-suse                                   | ATI Repository                                       | No      | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://www2.ati.com/suse/11.4                                                                                |
    So I see - that mainly the tumbleweed KDE packages are installed (not the KR46).

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    Default Re: gam_server - blocks the system over 15 minutes

    Quote Originally Posted by tsu2 View Post
    According to Google, gam_server is the server side part of Gamin which is a Gnome FAM (File Alteration Monitor) module. According to my machine, for openSUSE this is provided by Packman Repository and since it's not already installed in my openSUSE/KDE machine I suppose you're running either Gnome Desktop or a Gnome app that requires Gamin. I know that openSUSE/KDE implements FAM but without this module.
    Google findings (most one year and older) shows me, that some KDE programs also use FAM with Gamin.
    No, I don't use GNOME, only some programs like GIMP.
    In some articles are the hard solution shown - to remove gam_server, and put a empty shell script on the place! But I'm not really sure, that this is a good work around.

    Quote Originally Posted by tsu2 View Post
    So, it sounds like your module is indexing/scanning your system at an inconvenient time (best done at night or as a slow background process with low priority).
    I don't know. But it's not cyclic - it looks for me, like that it starts if many KDE actions are done.

    Quote Originally Posted by tsu2 View Post
    If configuration doesn't work(I can Google complaints) I assume your problem would still be addressed by assigning the gam_server application a low priority NICE value
    How I can find the packages, that includes the file (with "rpm -qla | grep gam_server" I find the program - but not the rpm which includes it)? Additionally, I can't find any configuration file for gamin.

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    Thumbs up Re: gam_server - blocks the system over 15 minutes

    OK, I exchange the "gam_server" against a empty script.

    Code:
    mv /usr/lib/gam_server /usr/lib/gam_server.org && echo -e '#!/bin/sh\n' > /usr/lib/gam_server && chmod +x /usr/lib/gam_server

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