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    Default Clean install of 11.4 goes well but after rebooting, X does not start

    I have recently done clean installs of 11.4 on two computers and then done clean re-installs but still have the same problem. Each time, the install was without flaw and I could download the updates, when offered, in the install process. At the end of the install I can log into KDE and everything works. However, after shutting down, on reboot, I only get a command line login. I can either login and run startx or use su and do init 3 followed by init 5. This tells me I am getting to runlevel 5 but X isn't starting. Either of those approaches gives me the KDE login. However, after that I have to manually start the network in YAST. I also think I had had to restart CUPS but I have only got as far as installing a printer once so I can't be absolutely sure that happened.

    As I indicate, this is fully reproducible. Anyone give me a clue as to what is going on?

    Thanks,
    Mike

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    Default Re: Clean install of 11.4 goes well but after rebooting, X does not start

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    Default Re: Clean install of 11.4 goes well but after rebooting, X does not start

    On a different tack, please confirm that the console login is at runlevel 5 with

    Code:
    /sbin/runlevel
    Since you say that KDE4 can be made to start manually without problems, then it might also pay to check /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager with

    Code:
    grep DISPLAYMANAGER /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager
    For KDE I would expect these lines

    Code:
    DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm"
    Code:
    DISPLAYMANAGER_STARTS_XSERVER="yes"
    but maybe you have

    Code:
    DISPLAYMANAGER="console"
    or similar. (Just an idea).

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    MikeyOT wrote:
    > As I indicate, this is fully reproducible. Anyone give me a clue as to
    > what is going on?


    What's in the logs?

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    Default Re: Clean install of 11.4 goes well but after rebooting, X does notstart

    On 04/15/2011 12:06 PM, MikeyOT wrote:
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    > install was without flaw and I could download the updates, when offered,
    > in the install process. At the end of the install I can log into KDE
    > and everything works. However, after shutting down, on reboot, I only
    > get a command line login.


    sounds like something in the update (probably a new kernel) wasn't
    completely installed until the boot after the update..

    i guess you now have a graphics driver conflict with the newer kernel..

    which you can probably sort through with one (or some of both) of the
    following, and holler if you get stuck:

    http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Configuring_graphics_cards
    http://tinyurl.com/37v9y7m

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    Default Re: Clean install of 11.4 goes well but after rebooting, X does not start

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyOT View Post
    I have recently done clean installs of 11.4 on two computers and then done clean re-installs but still have the same problem. Each time, the install was without flaw and I could download the updates, when offered, in the install process. At the end of the install I can log into KDE and everything works. However, after shutting down, on reboot, I only get a command line login. I can either login and run startx or use su and do init 3 followed by init 5. This tells me I am getting to runlevel 5 but X isn't starting. Either of those approaches gives me the KDE login. However, after that I have to manually start the network in YAST. I also think I had had to restart CUPS but I have only got as far as installing a printer once so I can't be absolutely sure that happened.

    As I indicate, this is fully reproducible. Anyone give me a clue as to what is going on?
    It does not read to me that the install was without flaw, as you have this problem.

    Have you had a completely successful install (include weeks of satisfactory operation) with openSUSE before ? I have the impression that your installation was only partially successful and failed after the 1st reboot. I have an 'impression' that your login to KDE after what you think was a successful install, in fact was not a complete install and everything may not have been successfully configured.

    If it were me, I would redo the install with the 'nomodeset' boot code specified in the installation CD/DVD, and if there is a reboot I would replace that code. If this is AMD hardware, that will force the radeonhd graphics driver (instead of radeon graphics driver). If this is nVidia hardware, that will force the nv graphics driver instead of the nouveau grapics driver. If this is Intel graphic hardware that will force the FBDEV graphic driver (instead of the Intel Graphic driver).

    If that does not work (ie no boot afterward) then I would try re-installing, but this time press F3 (I think) at the first cd/dvd grub splash menu (before the install starts) and select 'safe settings' which will install with the FBDEV driver for the entire installation process.

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    Default Re: Clean install of 11.4 goes well but after rebooting, X does not start

    Also check and make sure your CD/DVD passes the media check on the first menu.

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    Thanks guys. I see there are a number of other posters with what looks like exactly the same problem (see other threads about 11.4 booting). I'll start investigating along the lines you have all suggested. First off here are some off the top answers.
    Hardware:
    Mobo: Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5
    CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1075T
    Graphics: single ASUS ENGTX470
    RAM: Corsair xms3 8GB

    Have been using Suse since version 8 with very few problems other than the usual scuffles with proprietary sound & graphics drivers - getting Amarok and X-Plane to work is always a hassle. 11.3 was fine with this set up and proprietary nVidia drivers - giving very high fps in X-Plane - very satisfactory indeed. I did try Kubuntu 10.10 and that was fine too. I have never had the network not starting before and as I intimated (and others have also stated elsewhere) there are a number of other services that I am having to start manually once at full runlevel 5.

    I have changed /etc/sysconfig/boot:run parallel to no and that appears to work to some extent - I do now get a full runlevel 5 start and the kdm login. Having set verbose options, I see during boot that DCHP4/DCHP6 takes a really long time to start and does not appear to have started by the time kdm is up and running. Maybe I need to either give it more time? Eventually I do get the network running but by then I have usually tried one or two things in YAST so am not sure whether it started by itself or because of something I did.

    More to come...

    Mike

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    I have all the above except "console" since DISPLAYMANAGER is "kdm"

    Mike

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    Default Re: Clean install of 11.4 goes well but after rebooting, X does not start

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyOT View Post
    Graphics: single ASUS ENGTX470
    A surf on the internet suggests this is a GeForce GTX 470.

    Don't forget to conduct the media check, as was suggested by gogalthorp. In particular run an md5sum check on the downloaded .iso file, and compare that md5sum to that posted on the internet. Also when burning the CD/DVD, do so at the slowest speed your burner allows to a +R or -R media (not to an RW) to a high quality media (not some bargain basement special). Also run the media check on the cd/dvd.

    Support for the GTX 470 was introduced about a year ago with the 195.36.24 proprietary nvidia driver (dated 2010.04.28) and it thus should be supported in the current 271.41.03 nVidia proprietary graphic driver. Back in August last year, it was noted there was no opensource graphic driver support for the GTX 470: [Phoronix] Nouveau In Linux 2.6.36 Has NVIDIA Fermi Mode-Setting and if that is still the case, then you will likely need to use either the FBDEV graphic driver (which pretty much should work with all cards) or the VESA graphic driver.

    And then once those are setup (which will give very poor but functional performance) you can install the proprietary nVidia driver.

    Guidance can be given on this thread as to how to do that, if you don't know the technique. Just advise!

    Good lcuk.

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