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    Default What packages/repos do you want to see pulled into Tumbleweed?

    Hi all,

    I'm the one in charge of the openSUSE:Tumbleweed repo and I thought I would ask
    everyone here the following question I have asked others:

    What packages/repos do you want to see added to Tumbleweed?

    I'd like to know what repos you currently have added to your system that you
    use to keep up to date with so I can add them to Tumbleweed to make things
    easier for you and everyone else.

    Oh, and yes, I know about the latest KDE and Gnome releases, I'm working on
    them right now. See the openSUSE:Tumbleweed:KDE and openSUSE:Tumbleweed:GNOME
    repos for the test experiments (use at your own risk!) for how they are
    progressing. Give them a few more weeks before they are merged into the main
    Tumbleweed repo for all to use.

    thanks,

    greg k-h

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    Default Re: What packages/repos do you want to see pulled into Tumbleweed?

    If the xorg | x11 factory repos indicates a stable updated mesa/xorg-x11 is available, I would be interested in seeing that migrate to tumbleweed, ... but because it can be very impactive if not stable, and so I think ultra conservatism would be needed in any such selection. Together with this would be the latest open source Intel graphic drivers and radeon drivers that might only work with a kernel version that tumbleweed would have.

    Stable updates to the alsa driver would also be of interest, especially any user space alsa apps that might go hand-in-hand with the alsa updates that are in any tumbleweed kernel update.

    Of course my reply is a bit biased as I spend most of my volunteer time trying to help openSUSE users with sound and with graphics.

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    Default Re: What packages/repos do you want to see pulled into Tumbleweed?

    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    If the xorg | x11 factory repos indicates a stable updated mesa/xorg-x11 is
    available, I would be interested in seeing that migrate to tumbleweed, ... but
    because it can be very impactive if not stable, and so I think ultra
    conservatism would be needed in any such selection. Together with this would
    be the latest open source Intel graphic drivers and radeon drivers that might
    only work with a kernel version that tumbleweed would have.
    Yes, I've looked into doing this for the xorg stuff, it's a bit trickier, but we
    are working on it. There's a xorg-video driver update in
    openSUSE:Tumbleweed:Testing that is being evaluated right now.

    Mesa might get the update by default as GNOME 3.0 needs it, so it might show up
    sooner than we anticipated.

    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    Stable updates to the alsa driver would also be of interest, especially any
    user space alsa apps that might go hand-in-hand with the alsa updates that are
    in any tumbleweed kernel update.
    ALSA is already in Tumbleweed, you should have seen an update of it sometime
    last week.

    thanks,

    greg k-h

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    Default Re: What packages/repos do you want to see pulled into Tumbleweed?

    Hi,

    I would like to see productivity applications which aren't aligned to a particular desktop environment e.g. GIMP, Inkscape and Scribus. I think you might already have LibreOffice covered.

    A current version of database servers e.g. PostgreSQL and MySQL would also be useful - along with their associated administration tools both desktop and Web-based e.g. pgAdmin3/phpPgAdmin and the MySQL equivalents.

    Regards,
    Neil Darlow
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    Asus Eee 900: 900MHz Celeron, 1GB RAM, 12GB SSD, 915GM, openSUSE-current+Tumbleweed
    Home-built Desktop: Athlon II X2 3.3GHz, 4GB RAM, 1TB SATA, GeForce G210, openSUSE-12.1-x86_64, KDE-4.7.2

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    Default Re: What packages/repos do you want to see pulled into Tumbleweed?

    On 04/14/2011 08:36 PM, gregkh wrote:
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    > I'm the one in charge of the openSUSE:Tumbleweed repo


    -=welcome=- new poster ;-)

    thanks for dropping in, you are always welcome....

    you may be interested to know that access is available via nntp, which
    you might find more 'comfortable', just point your fav client at
    forums.opensuse.org (or 130.57.4.15 as you wish)

    lots more (than you need) here:
    http://forums.opensuse.org/faq.php?faq=novfor#faq_nntp

    thanks for your support of open software and openSUSE!, and now the forums..

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    Default Re: What packages/repos do you want to see pulled into Tumbleweed?

    Quote Originally Posted by neildarlow View Post
    I would like to see productivity applications which aren't aligned to a
    particular desktop environment e.g. GIMP, Inkscape and Scribus. I think you
    might already have LibreOffice covered.
    Yes, LibreOffice is already in Tumbleweed.

    As for GIMP and Inkscape, they don't have new updates in their base
    repositories yet, so there is nothing to update to. I'll watch them though and
    if they do update I'll add them.

    Scribus is already updated in openSUSE:11.4:Update, and there is no newer
    version yet either, so I'll add it to my "watch for updates" list as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by neildarlow View Post
    A current version of database servers e.g. PostgreSQL and MySQL would also be
    useful - along with their associated administration tools both desktop and
    Web-based e.g. pgAdmin3/phpPgAdmin and the MySQL equivalents.
    This gets a bit messier as both of them do have pretty hard ties to other
    packages in places. It would be a big library update if I were to upgrade
    them, so that might be better left to the "larger" main openSUSE release cycle.

    Unless there are specific reasons for updating these packages that people have
    and could help out in testing of them?

    thanks,

    greg k-h

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    Default Re: What packages/repos do you want to see pulled into Tumbleweed?

    Quote Originally Posted by gregkh View Post
    Yes, I've looked into doing this for the xorg stuff, it's a bit trickier, but we
    are working on it. There's a xorg-video driver update in openSUSE:Tumbleweed:Testing that is being evaluated right now.
    That would be great, as both the open source radeon and intel drivers are in the xorg-x11-driver-video rpm. This could be a bit tricky as I think one would need to track what custom patches the 11.4 build already has for the xorg-x11-driver-video rpm, to ensure they are not lost in any tumbleweed updated packaging.

    I suppose one could also consider tumbleweed updates to the nouveau graphic driver via the xorg-x11-driver-nouveau rpm, although I think that might be particularly difficult, as I don't think the nouveau driver developers have a clear cut versioning demarcation in place to the same extent that the radeon and intel driver developers have (?) < not sure >

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    Default Re: What packages/repos do you want to see pulled into Tumbleweed?

    I would like the whole opensuse-11.4-update repository copied into tumbleweed.

    If I upgrade my system now, I have to
    zypper up -r update
    zypper dup -r tumbleweed
    zypper dup -r packman
    zypper dup -r kde46

    Which is a bit more complicated as just
    zypper dup
    as it should be using prioritized tumbleweed repos. You need to use "dup" for possible new packages in tumbleweed. But because of bad build numbers this is not so easy ...

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    I would like for the build service to create repos for Tumbleweed when it creates them for the other "distibutions" (assuming that's how it works). I guess I'm saying if Tumbleweed is a "distribution" like Factory and Stable then wouldn't it be less confusing if it was structured like them?

    repos to include: contrib, kde extra, kde playground, recoll, vdpau, Mozilla, Wine
    openSUSE Leap 42.1 x64, Plasma 5 & KDE 4.14.x, pretty current proprietary Nvidia drivers (self-compiled)

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    Default Re: What packages/repos do you want to see pulled into Tumbleweed?

    Quote Originally Posted by ulenrich View Post
    I would like the whole opensuse-11.4-update repository copied into tumbleweed.

    If I upgrade my system now, I have to
    zypper up -r update
    zypper dup -r tumbleweed
    zypper dup -r packman
    zypper dup -r kde46

    Which is a bit more complicated as just
    zypper dup
    Ick, no, don't do all of that, just do a
    zypper dup

    and you should be fine. We don't put the update repos in tumbleweed, as
    they are not needed.

    I'm working on adding the kde46 repo into tumbleweed, so you can remove
    that one soon. Test builds are at openSUSE:Tumbleweed:KDE if you want
    to try it out now.

    If a simple 'dup' doesn't work for you, please let me know through
    email as to the details, and I will be glad to work it out for
    you.

    thanks,

    greg k-h

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