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    Default Install KDE alongside gnome Post-install.

    When i installed 11.4 i selected gnome as my desktop.
    Now i want to give KDE (suse´s default desktop) a shot.
    Witch packages do i have to install to have a FULL KDE enviroment as if i would have selected KDE when i installed suse? Not just the desktop, but kde apps, themes, etc.

    Or even better. Is there a "Meta package" that installs everything?

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    Default Re: Install KDE alongside gnome Post-install.

    Like this in Yast Software Management

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Add...ns-fromGTK.png
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    Default Re: Install KDE alongside gnome Post-install.

    I want to add some details for you to consider.

    KDE and Gnome typically work better if you use the correct settings I am about to show you, however it's not essential to switch. But if you decide to stick with one or the other (kde/gnome), then use the appropriate settings:

    For Gnome you will already have:
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Dis...ager-gnome.jpg
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Dis...ager-gnome.jpg

    For KDE the settings are:
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Dis...nager-kde4.jpg
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Dis...nager-kde4.jpg

    A reboot is need to take effect.

    Also, you need autologin disabled to switch to either kde or gnome at the login window:
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Ses...11.3-login.jpg
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Ses...ssion.type.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    Like this in Yast Software Management

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Add...ns-fromGTK.png
    OMG! thats it??
    i tought i would be directed to some "tutorial" or "howto:"
    Who sais "ubuntu is the easiest distro to use"???

    D@mn opensuse! its so slick, good and easy, it bores the hell out of me!
    (kidding of course)

    thanks!

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    Default Re: Install KDE alongside gnome Post-install.

    You are welcome
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    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    I want to add some details for you to consider.

    KDE and Gnome typically work better if you use the correct settings I am about to show you, however it's not essential to switch. But if you decide to stick with one or the other (kde/gnome), then use the appropriate settings:

    For Gnome you will already have:
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Dis...ager-gnome.jpg
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Dis...ager-gnome.jpg

    For KDE the settings are:
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Dis...nager-kde4.jpg
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Dis...nager-kde4.jpg

    A reboot is need to take effect.

    Also, you need autologin disabled to switch to either kde or gnome at the login window:
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Ses...11.3-login.jpg
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Ses...ssion.type.png
    Thanks, i only plan to have both desktops installed for a few days, eventually i will decide to keep one and remove the other one or even do a fresh reinstall of suse (no big deal).
    im interested in trying out kde because its been ages since i tried it, and at that time i decided i dint like it, and stayed with gnome ever since. But now i see it has evolved a lot, and since its the default desktop in opensuse, i tought id give it a shot.
    ibe never liked having "mixed" desktops, not even a large (gnome, kde) one and a light (xfce, lxde) one. So in a few days ill make up my mind, and stick with one.

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    Default Re: Install KDE alongside gnome Post-install.

    I think you find it hard to choose. The openSUSE Gnome is fantastic, but the KDE release is probably the best of all the distros out there.

    Once you decide I would recommend a clean install, including a new /home, more especially if you choose KDE, as I find Gnome settings can interfere at times. KDE only installs have a package called kde-pure, which holds the DE true to KDE only. If at some point you decide to install something that brings in so much Gnome stuff, it will ask you to remove kde-pure to allow the install.

    I use Gnome and KDE on different computers. I also have a Mint 11 Gnome install running on another.
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    Im currently installing kde like you told me, and also doin some "homework" on how to use it, and for what ibe read so far, i think ill like it. My only concern, is performance. If i were installing it on my desktop i wouldnt worry, but im puting it on a netbook, and as you know these things have very limited HW resources.
    Ill have to do some testing to compare performance in kde compared to gnome. Main concerns are speed (of course) and battery time. So far, gnome gives me exactly 2h28min from a full charge, to a "critical battery" indicator. And as for speed... its VERY fast!.
    cant wait to see how kde compares to gnome.

    Little O.T.: You mentioned you have mint 11 in another pc? is it working ok for you? just yesterday i uninstalled mint 11 from my other netbook, because of severe bugs and un-stability issues. (that other netbook is now a suse box too)

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    Default Re: Install KDE alongside gnome Post-install.

    In KDE, the notification settings, I set that to "No audio output".
    I also disabled (session management is Startup and Shutdown) kpackagekit.

    I made those changes for several reasons. One reason was that the corresponding processes were often showing up as busy in "top" output.

    I am noticing less fan output in a laptop since making those changes. It probably reduced power consumption and lengthens battery time.

    I do periodically start kpackagekit manually, to handle updates.
    openSUSE Leap 15.1; KDE Plasma 5;

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    thanks nrikert. apart from the things you sugested, i also disabled desktop effects, bluetooth, cups, and things i dont use. I did it so that it would be a "fair" comparason with my gnome setup, cause in gnome i have all those things disabled.
    Im typing this from the KDE netbook and so far i like kde. It feels (and looks) waaaay better that the last time i used it.
    As for performance, i dont see any decrease in speed, nor any increase in heat. I did noticed that when idle (no apps opened) system monitor reports 230 MB ram used, compared to about 185 in gnome. But its no big deal. About battery time, the netbook has been running for 1h 6min now, and battery icon reports 55% - 1h19m left. So i think its gonna be very close to gnome.

    the way things are looking, it seems i will soon become another happy KDE user

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