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    Default Re: Revision 1.1 of my thoughts on openSUSE Versions, or why should my first release be 1.3?

    If it wasn't a open source project, in the old closed software world anything higher than 10.x would be a bad sign as old, overloaded just to **** old.
    It would have made sense to start counting with the new name (Suse > OpenSuse) to start with a new 1.x and count upward.
    I do agree that it makes sense to name 1,2,3 for 3 cycles per year.
    But we had the discussion already if the number before the period represents what. A major release, a new year edition or what.
    Perhaps the year.

    In the end i am happy with everything as long as there is a new release.

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    Default Re: Revision 1.1 of my thoughts on openSUSE Versions, or why shouldmy first release be 1.3?

    On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 20:06:02 +0000, jdmcdaniel3 wrote:

    > If this is not the most bulletin sheet stuff you have read in a very
    > long time then let me know why you support this silly new numbering
    > system for openSUSE.


    Linux is evolutionary - major version numbers tend to imply revolutionary
    changes.

    The idea that "11" is a major release number and ".4" is a minor release
    don't hold for openSUSE - it's just a way of keeping track along the path
    as to where we are.

    By having a fixed release schedule and fixed numbering schedule, we cut
    out all the ongoing discussion about "what should the next release be"
    that comes up on the mailing lists every single time a new release comes
    out. So much energy has been spent on "is this 11.4 or 12.0 or something
    else?" in various releases that a line needed to be drawn so we would
    have a scheme.

    This scheme was what was voted for by the majority of people who voted.

    Jim



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    On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 20:06:02 +0000, jdmcdaniel3 wrote:

    > Now if you are still with me, I am wondering why openSUSE really sees
    > the need to redefine how version numbers work and why we can no longer
    > have a revision 12.0? This is really the most silliest thing I have
    > read in connection to openSUSE in a long time and at least for me, whom
    > could be asleep at the wheel, I guess I just missed this whole
    > discussion.


    I agree, it's absolutely barmy. As I read the original announcement, 58%
    voted for the status quo and this modified version didn't feature in the
    poll. That can't be so, can it?


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    Unhappy Re: Revision 1.1 of my thoughts on openSUSE Versions, or why shouldmy first release be 1.3?

    I agree, it's absolutely barmy. As I read the original announcement, 58%
    voted for the status quo and this modified version didn't feature in the
    poll. That can't be so, can it?
    So I don't know what is true or not, but no matter the alleged number, is was a minority of openSUSE users to be sure.

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    Default Re: Revision 1.1 of my thoughts on openSUSE Versions, or why shouldmy first release be 1.3?

    On 04/13/2011 01:36 PM, jdmcdaniel3 wrote:
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    > is was a minority of openSUSE users to be sure.


    _no_ openSUSE users voted, only members of the openSUSE Community.

    if you want a voice in such decisions you must request membership.

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    Default Re: Revision 1.1 of my thoughts on openSUSE Versions, or why should my first release be 1.3?

    I'm used to the Fedora numbering, so it's going to be a bit odd to see the openSUSE numbering. Then again, I'm not too concerned. They could call it 999 for all I care. The quote below sums it pretty well.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoergJaeger View Post
    In the end i am happy with everything as long as there is a new release.

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    Default Re: Revision 1.1 of my thoughts on openSUSE Versions, or whyshould my first release be 1.3?

    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 21:06 +0000, jdmcdaniel3 wrote:
    > I guess it is too bad the openSUSE forums mean so little to those that
    > can make such silly changes as this for the openSUSE version numbers.
    > With only 469 votes, there is not much telling what they could vote in
    > next. Perhaps changing to pink from green for the openSUSE lizard makes
    > more sense.
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    > Thank You,
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    >

    Hi
    As one of those 469, maybe you should submit your membership application
    and help make the silly changes with us?
    openSUSE:Members - openSUSE

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    Why do we need the abstraction layer of "Community member". In my eyes (forgive me) anybody here on this site who did help anybody to solve any problem is for me a "community member". Maybe I am not "elitarian" enough. Just to ask.

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    Default Re: Revision 1.1 of my thoughts on openSUSE Versions, or why shouldmy first release be 1.3?

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 18:36:01 +0530, stakanov
    <stakanov@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    > Why do we need the abstraction layer of "Community member". In my eyes
    > (forgive me) anybody here on this site who did help anybody to solve any
    > problem is for me a "community member". Maybe I am not "elitarian"
    > enough. Just to ask.


    why the focus on this site? what about those active in mailing lists, or
    in other ways active in the community? i'm not sure who votes in
    "community members," but i understand the need for a group of people who
    are recognized as constructive members of "the community." anybody who
    writes a couple emails to some forum, that's too wide, IMO.

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    Default Re: Revision 1.1 of my thoughts on openSUSE Versions, or why shouldmy first release be 1.3?

    On 04/13/2011 03:06 PM, stakanov wrote:
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    > Why do we need the abstraction layer of "Community member".


    it wasn't my idea, so i do not know..

    > In my eyes (forgive me) anybody here on this site who did help
    > anybody to solve any problem is for me a "community member".


    maybe you think of yourself (and many other 'helpers' here) as a member
    of the openSUSE Community, but think again...if you don't have an
    @opensuse.org email address you are just a user..

    and, a many of the real members can use that term 'user' as if it is
    derogatory..

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    Default Re: Revision 1.1 of my thoughts on openSUSE Versions, or why shouldmy first release be 1.3?

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:06:01 +0000, stakanov wrote:

    > Why do we need the abstraction layer of "Community member". In my eyes
    > (forgive me) anybody here on this site who did help anybody to solve any
    > problem is for me a "community member". Maybe I am not "elitarian"
    > enough. Just to ask.


    openSUSE project membership (which is what we're talking about here) are
    people who actively contribute to the project in one way or another, as
    opposed to an openSUSE user, who is someone who actively uses the
    distribution.

    The idea (as I understand it - I am a project member myself) is that
    those who contribute to the project in a concrete way have a say in the
    direction of the project. The purpose is (again, as I understand it) to
    encourage people contribute to the success of the project.

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