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    Default Suse 11.4: Scribus 1.4.0 RC1 buggy -> Update?

    Hi all,

    someone decided for whatever reason to ship Suse 11.4 with a broken version of Scribus.
    Not only is the application missing in the KDE-Menu after installation (had to add it manually) but it is crashing frequently.
    Whenever one adds new text in a Textbox (which will NOT be formated with the specified default font but the first in the list) and then immediately changes the font without first leaving the input-focus of that box: Segfault / signal 11.
    I understand that there is a RC2 out by now and the specific error seems to be fixed by that.

    Now my question is: After having decided to ship sUSE 11.4 with a RC: Will further RCs and maybe the final release of scribus be shipped by the OpenSuse Update? Or does the user have to manually install a working version of that software?

    Kind regards,
    Martin

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    Default Re: Suse 11.4: Scribus 1.4.0 RC1 buggy -> Update?

    On 04/09/2011 11:36 PM, smartysmart34 wrote:
    >
    > Now my question is: After having decided to ship sUSE 11.4 with a RC:
    > Will further RCs and maybe the final release of scribus be shipped by
    > the OpenSuse Update? Or does the user have to manually install a working
    > version of that software?
    >


    that is a real good question (really it is--i have no idea why it was
    done like that)...but, since this is a forum of users helping other
    users (with almost zero participation by openSUSE developers) we don't
    automatically have any better insight into the the decisions of what
    will be pushed via OnLine Update, and what won't..

    best talk with the folks that make that kind of decision, they are easy
    to reach via IRC or mail list...begin here:
    http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Communication_channels

    AH! WAIT!! i think i see the reason RC was shipped: "Note: Newer Scribus
    version can open the older version's file, but the opposite is not true.
    Stable Scribus 1.3.3.14 cannot open developmental Scribus 1.4.0 files.
    There is no way to convert the file back once you switch it to the newer
    branch. However, you can run both branches in parallel to test the new
    functionality."
    cite: http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Download

    i've never used Scribus, but if you have been using and have a bunch of
    work to continue, there is still access to the older (and i guess stable
    and working) 1.3.3 here:
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/scri...6.rpm/download

    and this version is available in the openSUSE 11.3 repos as well:
    scribus-1.3.3.14-1.11

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    Default Re: Suse 11.4: Scribus 1.4.0 RC1 buggy -> Update?

    DenverD wrote:
    > On 04/09/2011 11:36 PM, smartysmart34 wrote:
    >>
    >> Now my question is: After having decided to ship sUSE 11.4 with a RC:
    >> Will further RCs and maybe the final release of scribus be shipped by
    >> the OpenSuse Update? Or does the user have to manually install a working
    >> version of that software?
    >>

    >
    > that is a real good question (really it is--i have no idea why it was
    > done like that)...but, since this is a forum of users helping other
    > users (with almost zero participation by openSUSE developers) we don't
    > automatically have any better insight into the the decisions of what
    > will be pushed via OnLine Update, and what won't..
    >
    > best talk with the folks that make that kind of decision, they are easy
    > to reach via IRC or mail list...begin here:
    > http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Communication_channels
    >
    > AH! WAIT!! i think i see the reason RC was shipped: "Note: Newer Scribus
    > version can open the older version's file, but the opposite is not true.
    > Stable Scribus 1.3.3.14 cannot open developmental Scribus 1.4.0 files.
    > There is no way to convert the file back once you switch it to the newer
    > branch. However, you can run both branches in parallel to test the new
    > functionality."
    > cite: http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Download
    >
    > i've never used Scribus, but if you have been using and have a bunch of
    > work to continue, there is still access to the older (and i guess stable
    > and working) 1.3.3 here:
    > http://sourceforge.net/projects/scri...6.rpm/download
    >
    >
    > and this version is available in the openSUSE 11.3 repos as well:
    > scribus-1.3.3.14-1.11
    >


    To answer several questions:

    Note, I am an openSUSE member, packager, KDE team member and a founder
    of Scribus.

    I decided to ship 1.4.0.rc in 11.4 as we had expected to deliver 1.4.0
    final by release date. However, we have had some crash reports on other
    distros, which we now are resolving slowly, as well as a late feature
    add which has triggered some other corner case bugs.

    Moreover, Scribus 1.4.x is Qt4 based, not Qt3 like 1.3.3.14. From the
    Scribus team's perspective. 1.3.3.14 is history, will not receive bug
    fixes and is no longer recommended to be shipped by any distro.

    1.4.x has been a substantial refactoring, with over 1500 bugs and
    feature requests resolved. It is fundamentally better in so many ways we
    are taking weeks to prepare the release notes.

    Once we have 1.4 final, a maintenance release will most certainly done
    as soon as possible.

    As for the bug mentioned, it is relatively minor and any crashes need to
    have a back trace for us to find the issue. Sometimes, it is caused by
    faulty fonts or video drivers.

    Hope that helps,

    Peter




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    Default Re: Suse 11.4: Scribus 1.4.0 RC1 buggy -> Update?

    On 04/14/2011 09:28 PM, mrdocs wrote:
    >
    > Note, I am an openSUSE member, packager, KDE team member and a founder
    > of Scribus.
    >


    THANKS for the 'straight from the horse's mouth' info...really!

    drop in as often as you have time--we could use more . . .

    click this often -> http://tinyurl.com/scribus4Peter

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    Default Re: Suse 11.4: Scribus 1.4.0 RC1 buggy -> Update?

    It seems: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680533 might be the cause of the icon problem. Please advise if this fixes the issue.

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    Default Re: Suse 11.4: Scribus 1.4.0 RC1 buggy -> Update?

    mrdocs wrote:
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    > It seems: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680533 might be
    > the cause of the icon problem. Please advise if this fixes the issue.
    >
    >


    https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680533 might be the issue.

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    Default Re: Suse 11.4: Scribus 1.4.0 RC1 buggy -> Update?

    Hmm, I noticed that RC3 is now available in the KDE46 repo, and went to install it a few minutes ago. A new item (sans icon) named DTP (Scribus) appears in my KDE menu but clicking on it yields no activity whatsover. Trying to run "scribus" from the konsole does nothing either (that seemed to work with RC1 as it came with vanilla 11.4). Has anyone managed to get it to work?

    Edit: just went into Yast again and noticed that it did not show up as installed. Ticked the box again and this time it worked. Odd, but glad it's now working.
    Günter

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    Default Re: Suse 11.4: Scribus 1.4.0 RC1 buggy -> Update?

    RC5 is now out and should appear in KDF and KDE:UpdatedApps soon

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    Default Re: Suse 11.4: Scribus 1.4.0 RC1 buggy -> Update?

    RC4 landed on this desktop the other day, eagerly looking forward to RC5 and, of course, the final release. Scribus has come along nicely in recent years, to the point where I'm seriously considering dumping InDesign for my next DTP job.
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    Default Re: Suse 11.4: Scribus 1.4.0 RC1 buggy -> Update?

    gminnerup wrote:

    >
    > Hmm, I noticed that RC3 is now available in the KDE46 repo, and went to
    > install it a few minutes ago. A new item (sans icon) named DTP (Scribus)
    > appears in my KDE menu but clicking on it yields no activity whatsover.
    > Trying to run "scribus" from the konsole does nothing either (that
    > seemed to work with RC1 as it came with vanilla 11.4). Has anyone
    > managed to get it to work?
    >
    > Edit: just went into Yast again and noticed that it did not show up as
    > installed. Ticked the box again and this time it worked. Odd, but glad
    > it's now working.
    >
    >

    I have 1.4.0 RC4 working fine. starts from my desktop folder using icon
    copied from menu. Hopefully RC5 will have a few more bug fixes.

    Using Scribue to start publishing my Lions club newletter (varies from 3 -
    8 pages) Have been using LibreOffice. in both cases I conver doc to pdf
    before distributing it. LO seems to do a little better at converting to
    pdf, especially the graphics. If I get them to the resolution preflight
    verifier wants, they are to small to see.

    Other than that no complaints.
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