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    Default Future openSUSE versions

    Posted today on opensuse-project and opensuse-factory mailing linst:

    Subject: [opensuse-project] Versionitis - Results (Or: The next openSUSE
    release is openSUSE 12.1)
    Date: Wednesday, April 06, 2011, 10:06:30
    From: Andreas Jaeger <aj@novell.com>
    To: opensuse-project@opensuse.org

    The voting on how to do the versioning is over and the "old school"
    has won by 55 per cent (of 98 participants). Thanks to all that
    participated in the two votes and the discussion around the topic.

    As Coolo said in
    http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-p.../msg00516.html, we'd
    like to make a small change to the numbering:

    We will not have a .0 release but only .1, .2, .3 release. Since we
    have releases in three months, the November release is always the .1
    release, the July release the .2 and the March release the .3.

    So, the plan is that the next release will be called openSUSE 12.1 and
    launched on the 10th of November, 2011! Two years later - on the 14th
    of November, 2013 - we will then have the openSUSE 13.1 release.

    So, the next four releases are:
    * November 2011: openSUSE 12.1
    * July 2012: openSUSE 12.2
    * March 2013: openSUSE 12.3
    * November 2013: openSUSE 13.1

    Detailed results for logged-in openSUSE members are available at the
    connect poll page and I have reproduced them here as well:

    * A: "old school": Like currently but only counting the right number until 3:
    55% (54 votes)
    * B: "Fedora style": Just integers:
    29 % (28 votes)
    * C: "Ubuntu style": YY.MM:
    16 % (16 votes)

    This is also consistent with the results of thefirst public voting (see
    http://lizards.opensuse.org/2011/03/...oning-poll-on-
    last-three-options/
    ).

    Note that openSUSE does not have a major and minor numbering, even if it seems
    so. There is right now no difference in any way between what we would do for
    openSUSE 11.4 or 12.0 or 12.1 and no sense to speak about openSUSE 11 or
    openSUSE 11 family. We also had in the past no process on how to name the next
    release (when to increase which parts of the number).

    I think this new versioning is still consistent with the old one but also an
    improvement since it's now clear that we change the first digit every two
    year. The first poll showed that half of our users prefer a date based
    versioning and the other a consecutive numbering. So, depending on your point
    of view, you can see this as a mixture of both or as consecutive numbering

    So, time now to make openSUSE 12.1 a great release!

    Andreas

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    Thanks for sharing this Larry. I was completely unaware that this was being discussed. (Although, I really only care about the quality of the release, not the numbering).

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    Interesting little snip. Thanks
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    Larry Finger wrote:
    > Posted today on opensuse-project and opensuse-factory mailing linst:
    >
    > Subject: [opensuse-project] Versionitis - Results (Or: The next openSUSE
    > release is openSUSE 12.1)
    > Date: Wednesday, April 06, 2011, 10:06:30
    > From: Andreas Jaeger <aj@novell.com>
    > To: opensuse-project@opensuse.org
    >
    > The voting on how to do the versioning is over and the "old school"
    > has won by 55 per cent (of 98 participants). Thanks to all that
    > participated in the two votes and the discussion around the topic.
    >
    > As Coolo said in
    > http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-p.../msg00516.html, we'd
    > like to make a small change to the numbering:
    >
    > We will not have a .0 release but only .1, .2, .3 release. Since we
    > have releases in three months, the November release is always the .1
    > release, the July release the .2 and the March release the .3.
    >
    > So, the plan is that the next release will be called openSUSE 12.1 and
    > launched on the 10th of November, 2011! Two years later - on the 14th
    > of November, 2013 - we will then have the openSUSE 13.1 release.


    Duh, did everybody miss the obvious?

    11.4 Nov 2011
    12.1 Mar 2012
    12.2 Jul 2012
    12.3 Nov 2012
    13.1 Mar 2013
    and so on

    Anybody see the subtle connection between the 12s there? And the 13s etc
    etc. The 11.4 is necessary just to get started.

    That would be a numbering system everybody could understand, especially
    noobs and journalists. What's planned will just cause confusion.

    Cheers, Dave

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    On 04/07/2011 11:48 AM, Dave Howorth wrote:
    > Duh, did everybody miss the obvious?
    >
    > 11.4 Nov 2011
    > 12.1 Mar 2012
    > 12.2 Jul 2012
    > 12.3 Nov 2012
    > 13.1 Mar 2013
    > and so on
    >
    > Anybody see the subtle connection between the 12s there? And the 13s etc


    wait a second! the thread opener would indicate not what you wrote, but:

    11.4 Mar 11
    12.1 Nov 11
    12.2 Jul 12
    12.3 Mar 13
    13.1 Nov 13
    13.2 Jul 14
    13.3 Mar 15
    14.1 Nov 15

    which has no subtle (consistent) connection of 12s or 13s to anything i
    can see..

    but, i am known to be kinda 33 Mhz like ;-)

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    2 days later. Talk about LUCK!

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    DenverD wrote:
    > On 04/07/2011 11:48 AM, Dave Howorth wrote:
    >> Duh, did everybody miss the obvious?
    >>
    >> 11.4 Nov 2011


    Oops, sorry I should have said

    11.5 Nov 2011

    >> 12.1 Mar 2012
    >> 12.2 Jul 2012
    >> 12.3 Nov 2012
    >> 13.1 Mar 2013
    >> and so on
    >>
    >> Anybody see the subtle connection between the 12s there? And the 13s etc

    >
    > wait a second! the thread opener would indicate not what you wrote, but:
    >
    > 11.4 Mar 11


    Doh, sorry.

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    On 04/07/2011 03:07 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
    > Oops, sorry I should have said
    > 11.5 Nov 2011


    are you trying to
    a. trick me
    b. check my ability to count
    c. confuse me
    d: all of the above

    i ask because with "11.5 Nov 11" i still don't see the connect of 12s,
    13s 14s etc:

    11.4 Mar 11
    11.5 Nov 11
    12.1 Jul 12
    12.2 Mar 13
    12.3 Nov 13
    13.1 Jul 14
    13.2 Mar 15
    13.3 Nov 15
    14.1 Jul 16

    i don't understand womens either. ;-)

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    in the lottery last Wednesday, and then finds the love of his life just
    2 days later. Talk about LUCK!

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    DenverD wrote:
    > On 04/07/2011 03:07 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
    >> Oops, sorry I should have said
    >> 11.5 Nov 2011

    >
    > are you trying to
    > a. trick me
    > b. check my ability to count
    > c. confuse me
    > d: all of the above


    e. other - I'm trying to con you out of all your money

    > i ask because with "11.5 Nov 11" i still don't see the connect of 12s,
    > 13s 14s etc:
    >
    > 11.4 Mar 11
    > 11.5 Nov 11
    > 12.1 Jul 12
    > 12.2 Mar 13
    > 12.3 Nov 13
    > 13.1 Jul 14
    > 13.2 Mar 15
    > 13.3 Nov 15
    > 14.1 Jul 16


    Where did you get this crazy list from? Look at *MY* list! :-P

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    On 04/07/2011 04:16 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
    > Where did you get this crazy list from? Look at *MY* list! :-P


    oh, now i understand!

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    in the lottery last Wednesday, and then finds the love of his life just
    2 days later. Talk about LUCK!

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    As this seems to confuse people, let's make it simple.

    * The .1 release will occur in November of odd years.

    * The .2 release will occur in July of even years.

    * The .3 release will occur in March of odd years.

    * There will be no .0 releases.

    * The next release will be 12.1 in November of 2011.

    * There is no correlation of the major release number with the year.

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