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    Unhappy Lenovo L412: Random Hard Freeze

    Hi.

    Just tried putting 11.4 on a Lenovo L412, and I'm getting random freeze-ups that can only be cleared by killing power. Booting to the Windows 7 partition shows no problems.

    I have several suspects:
    • The Linux/Windows partitioning done during the Linux install
    • The compilation and installation of the driver required to support the Realtek wireless chipset
    • The new openSuSE kernel itself

    Before I start ripping the guts out of this thing, I thought I'd see if anyone has seen something similar. Any clues?

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Lenovo L412: Random Hard Freeze

    You didn't mention one of the most important suspects - the graphics chip and driver. Does it have Intel HD Graphics (Arrandale/Ironlake) or NVIDIA?

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    Default Re: Lenovo L412: Random Hard Freeze

    Well, hwinfo --gfxcard tells me it the "Intel Arrandale Integrated Graphics Controller," driver is "i915," and the driver module is "drm."

    I take it there's some grief with Arrandale?

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    Default Re: Lenovo L412: Random Hard Freeze

    Quote Originally Posted by MHGlenn View Post
    ...I take it there's some grief with Arrandale?
    Indeed there has been on our 11.3 and other linux distros, but we were hoping that with 11.4's upgrades to kernel 2.6.37, and to xorg-xserver, Mesa, DRI/DRM, and the "intel" driver (i915), the problems would be over. Given this is the second thread today involving Arrandale, that may not be the case.

    If you want to look at past openSUSE threads, I suggest you do a forum search on terms: arrandale ironlake gma. User SeanMc98 did a lot of work on this type of Intel graphics hardware and made considerable progress with kernel 2.6.37 and onto 2.6.38 with some regressions on the way. Some other users had varying success depending on processor configuration (cores) and laptop make. Can you confirm the processor model in your machine, and just to get a bit more detail please do the following.

    I suggest you post the first few lines (in CODE tags) to cover processor and graphics chipsets from running the following command (as root: su -) in a terminal:
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    lspci -nnk
    I don't wish to pre-judge the reason for your problems, but this should at least be on your suspect list.

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    Default Re: Lenovo L412: Random Hard Freeze

    Here y'go:
    Code:
    00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller [8086:0044] (rev 12)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:2183]
    	Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
    00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0046] (rev 12)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:215a]
    00:16.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller [8086:3b64] (rev 06)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:215f]
    00:1a.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller [8086:3b3c] (rev 06)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:2163]
    	Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
    00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio [8086:3b56] (rev 06)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:215e]
    	Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
    00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 [8086:3b42] (rev 06)
    00:1c.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 2 [8086:3b44] (rev 06)
    00:1c.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 3 [8086:3b46] (rev 06)
    00:1c.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 4 [8086:3b48] (rev 06)
    00:1c.4 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 5 [8086:3b4a] (rev 06)
    00:1c.5 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 6 [8086:3b4c] (rev 06)
    00:1d.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller [8086:3b34] (rev 06)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:2163]
    	Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
    00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge [8086:2448] (rev a6)
    00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation Mobile 5 Series Chipset LPC Interface Controller [8086:3b09] (rev 06)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:2166]
    00:1f.2 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 4 port SATA AHCI Controller [8086:3b29] (rev 06)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:2168]
    	Kernel driver in use: ahci
    00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset SMBus Controller [8086:3b30] (rev 06)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:2167]
    00:1f.6 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Thermal Subsystem [8086:3b32] (rev 06)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:2190]
    	Kernel driver in use: intel ips
    02:00.0 System peripheral [0880]: JMicron Technology Corp. SD/MMC Host Controller [197b:2382]
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:212e]
    	Kernel driver in use: sdhci-pci
    02:00.2 SD Host controller [0805]: JMicron Technology Corp. Standard SD Host Controller [197b:2381]
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:212d]
    02:00.3 System peripheral [0880]: JMicron Technology Corp. MS Host Controller [197b:2383]
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:212f]
    	Kernel driver in use: jmb38x_ms
    02:00.4 System peripheral [0880]: JMicron Technology Corp. xD Host Controller [197b:2384]
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:2130]
    03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8172] (rev 10)
    	Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:e020]
    	Kernel driver in use: rtl819xSE
    04:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev 03)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:2131]
    	Kernel driver in use: r8169
    ff:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture Generic Non-core Registers [8086:2c62] (rev 02)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:2196]
    ff:00.1 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture System Address Decoder [8086:2d01] (rev 02)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:2196]
    ff:02.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link 0 [8086:2d10] (rev 02)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:2196]
    ff:02.1 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Physical 0 [8086:2d11] (rev 02)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:2196]
    ff:02.2 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved [8086:2d12] (rev 02)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:2196]
    ff:02.3 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved [8086:2d13] (rev 02)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:2196]
    Something I'm trying right now: Passing "nomodeset xforcevesa acpi_osi=Linux" to the kernel on boot. Stay tuned.

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    Default Re: Lenovo L412: Random Hard Freeze

    Code:
    00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0046] (rev 12)
    	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:215a]
    That pci id of [8086:0046] confirms it as Arrandale chipset with an Ironlake GPU integrated.

    Your ThinkPad L412's processor is either an Intel Core i3 or i5 (in case you are looking at other users posting similar issues.

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    Default Re: Lenovo L412: Random Hard Freeze

    It's an Intel Core i3.

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    Default Re: Lenovo L412: Random Hard Freeze

    Just a note that I have a similar situation. See thread: System freeze and possible diagnosis
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    Default Re: Lenovo L412: Random Hard Freeze

    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    Just a note that I have a similar situation. See thread: System freeze and possible diagnosis
    It certainly looks like you both have the same processor, chipset, graphics GMA and a similar problem with 11.4 that may require a bug report.

    Have you (and same question to @nrickert) tried booting and running with the nomodeset boot option (also used in failsafe boot)? If it works, this will avoid Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) and default to the more basic "fbdev" graphics driver. It may not perform as well, but you could avoid the freezes. If you haven't already, I suggest you try this before doing any bug reporting. Please post back here with any results.

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    Default Re: Lenovo L412: Random Hard Freeze

    Quote Originally Posted by consused View Post
    Have you (and same question to @nrickert) tried booting and running with the nomodeset boot option (also used in failsafe boot)?
    MHGlenn said he was trying that (post #5). I am waiting to hear, before I decide to whether try that.

    I have not had a freeze since I turned off the "Dim Display" setting in the Power Management options.
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