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    Default I do not have any KDE login manager

    I have just upgraded from suse 11.0 (kde3) to opensuse 11.4 (kde4).

    Out of the box I had this blue horrible login theme. I wanted to change it.

    I logged in as root and run systemsettings.
    I do not find ANY "Login Manager" module, not even gray !

    I have found this: Problems when Configuring the Login Screen by the KDE4 Login Manager | Hans-Hermann-Bode.de / h2b.de

    True that's my case.
    I have changed (via yast2):
    System|/etc/sysconfig Editor and then Desktop|Display
    • DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm3" ==> DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm4"
    • DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME="SUSE" ==> DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME=""


    I have rebooted.
    Now the login screen is even more horrible (a gray thing) but I do not really care, it has changed something: that's nice. I have thought now I just need to install more themes ....

    My problem is tat STILL I do not have ANY "Login Manager" module in systemsettings AT ALL, not even gray !

    What should I do?
    Look I would probably know how to do it "manually" (download & unpack the theme, set the theme name in yast2 /etc/sysconfig Editor DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME) but I do not want to. I want to use the graphical KDE module!

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    Default Re: I do not have any KDE login manager

    On 03/22/2011 04:06 PM, one71 wrote:
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    > I have just upgraded from suse 11.0 (kde3) to opensuse 11.4 (kde4).
    >


    i wonder how you upgraded....i wonder because as far as i know there
    is no supported upgrade path from 11.0 to 11.4 without stepping from
    through .1, .2, and .3

    current upgrade paths are explained here, but they have been revised
    many times since 11.0 was released and there has never been a
    supported upgrade from 11.0 to anything:
    http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade
    http://doc.opensuse.org/products/ope...ha.update.html

    so any 'upgrade' which didn't include a format and install of the
    basic system can probably expect all kinds of weird stuff to try to
    over come..

    > What should I do?


    i can't say what you should do _now_, what i would have done is backup
    all data and do a clean format install of 11.4, and then copy data
    into the new install...at least that is how i got from 10.3 to 11.3
    about a month ago, and so far my 11.3 has been smooth and, knock on
    wood, mostly trouble free ..

    well, from where you are now i guess it is still probably best and
    easiest to fresh format/install and then restore data..

    the good news is that (most likely) 11.4 to the next should be an easy
    step..

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    Default Re: I do not have any KDE login manager

    Quote Originally Posted by one71 View Post
    I logged in as root and run systemsettings.
    I do not find ANY "Login Manager" module, not even gray !
    There is no need to login as root. There is not even a need to run sytemsettings with root priviliges here.

    The login manager is called Login Screen. (Maybe, just maybe you have been looking for the wrong thing.) With the command 'kcmshell4 kdm' you can directly start it either from Konsole or this Alt+F2 thing. If that command fails to bring up the login manager window, then I guess that you don't have it installed for whatever reason.

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    Default Re: I do not have any KDE login manager

    If you are using KDE, simply start typing 'log ...' in Search and it will appear. It is one of a number of modules whose link to System settings appears to have been missed in KDE4.6.

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    Hi

    1. I did the upgrade without any problem and a part of really few minor thing everything looks working perfectly, so I am for sure not going to format and start over ...
    2. sure I know that I do not need to be logged in as root, I just wanted to avoid the question :-)
    3. If I type "screen" in the search I get only
      • windows decorations
      • cursor theme
      • desktop theme
      • splash screen
      • virtual desktops
      • screen edges
      • workspace
      • size & orientation
      • screen saver
      • gamma
      • multiple monitors

      So nothing to do with the login manager I guess
    4. If I type "log" in search I get only
      • account details module
      • sharing module
      • startup & shutdown module
        • sutostart
        • service manager
        • session management

      So again nothing to do with the login manager I guess


    What comes closer to the degugging of my problem is the suggestion:
    command "kcmshell4 kdm".

    linux-ocvj:~ # kcmshell4 kdm
    Could not find module 'kdm'. See kcmshell4 --list for the full list of modules.

    linux-ocvj:~ # kcmshell4 --list|grep kdm
    linux-ocvj:~ #

    OK so the module it is not installed at all.
    Question. in which package is it? So that I can install it?

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    OK I have found it!
    Install
    kdm
    kdm-branding-openSUSE

    and now I have the "Login Screen" icon!

    Thanks guys.

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    Default Re: I do not have any KDE login manager

    Quote Originally Posted by one71 View Post
    OK I have found it!
    Install
    kdm
    kdm-branding-openSUSE

    and now I have the "Login Screen" icon!

    Thanks guys.
    Great. But mind, the themed mode (checkbox: 'Use themed greeter') of the Login Manager does not seem to work. You'll have to use YaST for that. The non-themed mode of the Login Manager does work though.

    Here is a recent thread with a little more:
    Problem with 11.4 KDE login screen & power management.

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    as a note:
    with those 2 packages installed
    1. I have got the "Login Screen" module
    2. without changing anything in the "Login Screen" & with the /etc/sysconfig DISPLAYMANAGER_KDE_THEME variable empty I get the openSUSE (nice) branding login screen (after a reboot)
    3. I manage to use the "Login Screen" module to download & istall new themes and I get them listed up

    But if I try to change the login theme via the "Login Screen" still it does not work.
    What I have to do is anyway:
    1. go in the "Login Screen"
    2. choose one theme which I like
    3. go in yast2 /etc/sysconfig Editor
    4. enter manually in the DISPLAYMANAGER_KDE_THEME the name of the theme I want to use
    5. reboot


    This is not really disturbing me .. anyway I wanted to report it because I find this quite buggy .....

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    :-) I have read your comment after I have posted mine :-)

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    Another question:

    if I do

    kcmshell4 --list

    I get the list of all installed kde modules.

    As now experience shows there could be useful kde modules which are not installed .. out of some reason and the package name is not "kde-like".
    The search for KDE in yast (including the description) brings obviously a ton of things ...
    Is there a way to list ALL (installed and not installed) kde4 modules? (a command or an intelligent search filter)

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