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    Default 11.4 freezes for no apparent reason

    My fresh openSuse 11.4 will freeze for no reason 10-15 minutes after I log into KDE. The first time it happened I was copying a folder to a mounted drive, the second time while I was browsing with Firefox, and the third when I was playing some KBlocks. The whole system except the mouse freezes. Killing X (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace) fails and I can't switch to another terminal.
    Has anyone else had this problem? And what logs do you want posted?
    Vaio F11: i7-720QM 8GB RAM Nvidia GT 330m
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    My fresh openSuse 11.4 will freeze for no reason 10-15 minutes after I log into KDE. The first time it happened I was copying a folder to a mounted drive, the second time while I was browsing with Firefox, and the third when I was playing some KBlocks. The whole system except the mouse freezes. Killing X (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace) fails and I can't switch to another terminal.
    Has anyone else had this problem? And what logs do you want posted?
    Wow what a powerful laptop you have there! I am very envious of you. I am so sorry to hear of your troubles. So, this laptop has an nVIDIA video GPU. Have you considered loading the nVIDIA propitiatory video driver the hard way by chance? Here is link on the possible ways to do it:

    SDB:NVIDIA drivers - openSUSE

    I normally install the driver the hard way using a bash script file I have here:

    LNVHW - Load NVIDIA (driver the) Hard Way from runlevel 3

    Message #12 shows the most recent version of lnvhw.

    Thank You,
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    Default Re: 11.4 freezes for no apparent reason

    I have the same problem with a fresh 11.4 install using kde4. It happens every 15 minutes, after the boot, and then I have no keyboard, no mouse. The only way is to press the off button of the computer.
    I also have a NVIDIA card gt8600. And I have installed the G02 driver.
    Is there any bug opened about this problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by bsilvereagle View Post
    My fresh openSuse 11.4 will freeze for no reason 10-15 minutes after I log into KDE. The first time it happened I was copying a folder to a mounted drive, the second time while I was browsing with Firefox, and the third when I was playing some KBlocks. The whole system except the mouse freezes. Killing X (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace) fails and I can't switch to another terminal.
    Has anyone else had this problem? And what logs do you want posted?

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    I have the same problem with a fresh 11.4 install using kde4. It happens every 15 minutes, after the boot, and then I have no keyboard, no mouse. The only way is to press the off button of the computer.
    I also have a NVIDIA card gt8600. And I have installed the G02 driver.
    Is there any bug opened about this problem?
    So I am not having this issue, but I installed my nVIDIA driver the hard way and not through the repository method. I am using 64 bit openSUSE and not 32 bit. Here is some info on installing the nVIDIA driver:

    SDB:NVIDIA drivers - openSUSE

    AND

    SDB:NVIDIA the hard way - openSUSE

    Please look through this info and see if you install the driver in a different way if it might help.

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    Broadcom wireless? I had the same problem, and found the opensource brcm80211 driver was causing the kernel lockup. Run "lscpi -vn" as root in a terminal and post the results. That will help us rule out any known hardware trouble.
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    Default Re: 11.4 freezes for no apparent reason

    On 03/13/2011 09:36 PM, bsilvereagle wrote:
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    > Has anyone else had this problem? And what logs do you want posted?
    >


    on a default install, if you have not changed the default daily cron
    time and you boot after that default daily cron time (which is link 1
    or 2 in the morning, local time), then all daily crons will run at
    about 15 minutes after the boot..

    so, if you boot, and open top before 15 minutes after boot, and leave
    it open on the desktop where you can see it, when your system
    "freezes" look at top and see what is sucking up your CPU
    ticks...(write down what pops up to the top of top, cause i wanna know)

    i guess you will see all kinds of stuff going on (lots of things will
    jump to the top, for a while and then go away)....and, if you just sit
    on your hands and watch top until all the crons have finished and the
    CPU usage drops to (say) 20% or so, you will find your machine
    un-"frozen"..

    try it and see..

    as for logs, have a look at /var/log/messages
    where you will see each line begins with a Month Day clock time, so
    zing to the time when your machine froze and you might find some bread
    crumbs..

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    67GTA, I'm using Atheros "ath9k"
    LinuxBidouille, in my googling I found 0 reports of any sort, if I can narrow down what is causing the problem I will file a bug report.

    jdmcdaniel3, in 11.2 and 11.3 the hard way was the only way to install Nvidia. X doesn't pick up on the connected monitor in the F11 (things may have changed in the latest X server though, it works fine in Arch) Unfortunately, I need kernel-source and gcc (and binutils,etc) to install the driver which won't be happening over 56K I'll report back on Tuesday.

    A lot of people are envious of my "beast." Autodesk Inventor demands it though. (And it doesn't hurt when compiling a kernel from source either )
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    I can't edit, sorry for the double post.
    DenverD, the 15 minutes isn't totally steadfast, I've been running for about an hour now. I did change a time during the install, but I'm not sure if it was "cron" per say. And it was froze for a good two hours before I rebooted last time.
    Regardless, top is waiting for a freeze.
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    Default Re: 11.4 freezes for no apparent reason

    bsilvereagle wrote:

    > jdmcdaniel3, in 11.2 and 11.3 the hard way was the -only- way to
    > install Nvidia. X doesn't pick up on the connected monitor in the F11
    > (things may have changed in the latest X server though, it works fine in
    > Arch) Unfortunately, I need kernel-source and gcc (and binutils,etc) to
    > install the driver which won't be happening over 56K I'll report back
    > on Tuesday.


    I have an old Nvidia card that has a similar problem. Try booting with
    irqpolling set on the boot menu. That got the system to recognize the
    monitor. Once you get the Nvidia driver installed you should be able to
    omit the kernel parameter to spped things up. In my case, the BIOS sets the
    on-board video chip to use an IRQ that conflicts somehow with ACPI usage and
    the basic install kernel gets heartburn and can't scan the monitor info.
    Once the Nvidia driver is installed it seems to use an alternate scan for
    the monitor (or changes the IRQ) and all is well.

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    I am having the same problem, Don't think it is a cron. May have something to do with ACPI. It is a tough one to figure out.
    I did a fresh install this time along with Home, To make sure there were no conflicts with any saved settings.
    I will try one thing at a time, to see if I can track it down.
    It froze once with this fresh install, Going to a site with the default FF.
    I un-installed FF bata, deleted the folder in the home folder and installed 3.6.15.
    So far so good.
    I don't think that is the main problem, It has an underlaying problem. Will see what it is.
    I do notice that this laptop is running about 10 degrees hotter then with 11.3
    Vaio F12: i7-740QM 4GB RAM Nvidia GT 330m
    OpenSuse 11.4 64 bit
    Qosmio i7-740QM 8GB RAM Nvidia GT 360m
    500 GB HD 7200 | 1 TB HD
    Opensuse 11.3 64 bit | VBox, Zoneminder & Mythtv

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