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    Default How To Configure Your Repositories For OpenSUSE 11.4

    In this blog post I explain how to use "Install/Remove Software" to configure your repositories, which repositories you'll want to add, how to configure their priority, and updating your system with the correct versions.

    Musing Allowed: OpenSUSE 11.4: Repositories

    I may eventually transfer some of this to the opensuse website, but I never expected it to take several days just to write this one blog post so it probably won't be soon. Still, I hope that it's helpful to opensuse 11.4 users and I wrote the post so that it was targeted to regular users primarily but also for those looking to see how the repositories have changed with the update to 11.4.

    I plan on writing a follow up later on about the future with the Tumbleweed and Bazaar projects.

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    thank you, good read and it sort of confirms my selected repo's Tumbleweed is the one I am still not sure what to do with though, so looking forward to that followup

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    Default Re: How To Configure Your Repositories For OpenSUSE 11.4

    On 03/13/2011 09:36 PM, Supreme1012 wrote:
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    > 'Musing Allowed: OpenSUSE 11.4: Repositories'
    > (http://bsmith1012.blogspot.com/2011/...ositories.html)
    >


    maybe you would want to consider how to work in the very good advice
    given in the new user section of these fora which is designed to keep
    the system stable for new folks while they learn..

    i'd like to see reference in your blog to the paragraph which begins
    with IMPORTANT in this link:

    http://tinyurl.com/33qc9vu

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    @Xilanaz: Your welcome. I wrote it mainly because I was double checking the changes made for 11.4 repositories and realized that getting everything set up correctly might not be common sense for many new users or even those upgrading. I'm still trying to find out more information about Tumbleweed, the explanations I've seen so far seem very general and unspecific.

    Quote Originally Posted by DenverD View Post
    maybe you would want to consider how to work in the very good advice given in the new user section of these fora which is designed to keep the system stable for new folks while they learn..

    i'd like to see reference in your blog to the paragraph which begins
    with IMPORTANT in this link:

    NEW Users - openSUSE Pre-install (general) PLEASE READ
    I can understand that, but I found much of those posts or links to not provide 11.4 specific information or in the case of the beginners guide, to go to a dead page. Did you read the article? It might be hard to see, but I put links at the bottom of each section that link to relevant OpenSUSE website pages. I feel that the article explains in better detail how to configure things and get to where you have a solid and stable system. Also, I never found any information about using priority in the repositories, which is explained in the blog.

    If I get time to later on, I will attempt to move some of that information into the relevant opensuse wiki pages.

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    Default Re: How To Configure Your Repositories For OpenSUSE 11.4

    On 03/14/2011 09:36 PM, Supreme1012 wrote:
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    > It might be hard to see,
    > but I put links at the bottom of each section that link to relevant
    > OpenSUSE website pages.


    yep i read all the article...
    maybe i missed it but i did not see where you referenced the info in
    this forum about repos that is specifically designed for folks _new_
    to openSUSE

    and, believe it or not, well over half of the folks who show up here
    with problems and questions are new to openSUSE folks...and many of
    those are due to 20 or 30 or more active repos..


    > Also, I never found any information about using priority
    > in the repositories, which is explained in the blog.


    oh, now i understand! you have not yet found the *documentation*...it
    covers the priority system rather well i think, in "4.4.2. Managing
    Repository Properties" here:

    http://doc.opensuse.org/products/ope....sw.instsource

    start at the beginning, it is a page turner! http://doc.opensuse.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverD View Post
    yep i read all the article...
    maybe i missed it but i did not see where you referenced the info in
    this forum about repos that is specifically designed for folks _new_
    to openSUSE
    You have an issue with my informative blog post about opensuse repositories because... I didn't link to an opensuse forum thread or post? There are several reasons why, mainly because I don't like linking to a forum discussion as a source, but also because that thread (and some others I saw) were outdated, not well organized, and covered varying topics. You can criticize my post if you wish, but I fail to see why you're attacking me when you're not arguing that any of my information is incorrect or missing relevant points. I would much rather have a discussion about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by DenverD View Post
    and, believe it or not, well over half of the folks who show up here with problems and questions are new to openSUSE folks...and many of
    those are due to 20 or 30 or more active repos..
    Which is why I wanted to write an article about opensuse repositories.

    Quote Originally Posted by DenverD View Post
    oh, now i understand! you have not yet found the *documentation*...it
    covers the priority system rather well i think, in "4.4.2. Managing
    Repository Properties" here:

    Chapter4.Installing or Removing Software

    start at the beginning, it is a page turner! doc.opensuse.org - Documentation Guides & Manuals
    That was in fact helpful and could have been useful in writing my article. Still I believe I covered the necessary points and explanations. Those docs did not show up in any of my searches for information.

    Instead of being sarcastic and rude, it might be more productive for everyone if you were more helpful instead. Advise given rudely, is usually advice that's ignored or lost in the ensuing flame war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supreme1012 View Post
    You can criticize my post if you wish, but I fail to see why you're attacking me when you're not arguing that any of my information is incorrect or missing relevant points. I would much rather have a discussion about that.
    The latest VLC packages. A more stable version of VLC is offered in the Packman repository.
    Index of /pub/vlc/SuSE/11.4/
    I'm not 100% since I do not install the videolan repo and things might have changed since the last time I've seen it completely messing up codecs. But what's missing in your article IMHO, is a list of the repos people should NOT install - and maybe the reason why. I guess it would be a more valuable info that a list of repos one can find anywhere.

    Nice blog though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by please_try_again View Post
    I'm not 100% since I do not install the videolan repo and things might have changed since the last time I've seen it completely messing up codecs. But what's missing in your article IMHO, is a list of the repos people should NOT install - and maybe the reason why. I guess it would be a more valuable info that a list of repos one can find anywhere.
    It's too late now but that is a good idea. I did mention in the KDE section that you shouldnt install the playground repo unless you know what you're doing, and pretty much all of the repos in the Others section I made note that stabler versions were already included in the main repos. Did you have any suggestions for what repos would be included in a list like that? Also, I've had trouble with the videolan repo in the past as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by please_try_again View Post
    Nice blog though.
    Thanks!
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    Default Re: How To Configure Your Repositories For OpenSUSE 11.4

    On 03/14/2011 11:36 PM, Supreme1012 wrote:
    >
    > but I fail to see
    > why you're attacking me when you're not arguing that any of my
    > information is incorrect or missing relevant points. I would much rather
    > have a discussion about that.


    why do you think i attacked?

    i didn't "argue" any info was incorrect _because_ i didn't see any
    incorrect.

    i only mentioned one missing relevant point, in my opinion.


    >
    > Instead of being sarcastic and rude, it might be more productive for
    > everyone if you were more helpful instead. Advise given rudely, is
    > usually advice that's ignored or lost in the ensuing flame war.


    i've read my post to you three times and fail to see where any are
    attacking, sarcastic or rude..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverD View Post
    > Instead of being sarcastic and rude, it might be more productive for
    > everyone if you were more helpful instead. Advise given rudely, is
    > usually advice that's ignored or lost in the ensuing flame war.[/color]

    i've read my post to you three times and fail to see where any are
    attacking, sarcastic or rude..
    I'd have to agree. DenverD's original post was intended to be helpful, as far as I can tell. It starts off with a suggestion for how to improve the blog post and ends with a specific suggestion for something to add, again to improve the blog post. The language used was a bit awkward (non-native English speaker?), but even the most pessimistic reader would have to work hard to interpret it as overly critical, let alone rude.

    Ease up on the knee-jerk defensiveness, Supreme1012. This is the internet and your skin needs to be a bit thicker.

    Great blog post, by the way.

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