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    Default 11.3: Where to adjust X11 Timeout Parameter, affecting boot

    Computer boots up fine, but drops to commandline as it tries to go to the desktop. Just logging in and issuing "startx" brings up the desktop and all is well.

    The Xorg logfile gives no fatals or clues (at least to me), but the "warn" file in /var/log gives the following at the end:
    Mar 13 13:25:43 xxxxxxxx kdm[2328]: X server startup timeout, terminating
    Mar 13 13:25:43 xxxxxxxx kdm[2328]: X server for display :0 can't be started, session disabled

    Yesterday was fine, and never had it before; no harware changes (still same ATI 4770 and ATI 11.2 driver), nor BIOS changes/updates, for ages. First boot today this started. Does it continuously.

    Any insight into how I might slightly increase X's timeout parameter a bit, if this is the problem?
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    Smile Re: 11.3: Where to adjust X11 Timeout Parameter, affecting boot

    I found a suggestion to edit a text file here with this line to resolve the problem set in /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc.

    To edit this file use a menu Run Command or Alt-F2
    Code:
    kdesu kwrite /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc
    And add the ServerTimeout=500 line:

    Code:
       [X-*-Core]
        ServerTimeout=500
    Reboot and see if this helps in any way.

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    Default Re: 11.3: Where to adjust X11 Timeout Parameter, affecting boot

    Good day!

    Got the same exact message in logs with 11.4, it began few days ago after some online updates. Every time I have to login as root into console, do init 3 than init 5 and KDM starts normally.

    Tried timeouts of 200, 500 and 800, no success.

    CPU is AMD 64 dual core.

    Is there any way to make KDM start absolutely last, after all other services started? I know it will slow down boot time up to 5 seconds, but I do not care about boot time any way. I've seen symlinks in /etc/init.d/rc5.d, but XDM is already K01. Will it help to make it 00 or 10?

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    Default Re: 11.3: Where to adjust X11 Timeout Parameter, affecting boot

    Can we see your repos? Please post output of 'zypper lr -d'. This happened to me some years ago when I had a mix of KDE packages from different repos.
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    Default Re: 11.3: Where to adjust X11 Timeout Parameter, affecting boot

    Quote Originally Posted by Knurpht View Post
    Can we see your repos? Please post output of 'zypper lr -d'. This happened to me some years ago when I had a mix of KDE packages from different repos.
    Please take a look:
    Code:
    # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type | URI | Service
    ---+----------------------------------+----------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
     1 | Contrib | Contrib | Yes | Yes | 85 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/11.4:/Contrib/standard/ | 
     2 | Updates-for-openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0 | Updates for openSUSE 11.4 11.4-0 | Yes | Yes | 90 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.4/ | 
     8 | openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0 | openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0 | No | No | 99 | yast2 | cd:///?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-Optiarc_DVD_RW_AD-7203S,/dev/sr0,/dev/sr1 | 
     9 | packman | packman | Yes | Yes | 80 | rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_11.4/ | 
    10 | repo-debug | openSUSE-11.4-Debug | No | Yes | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/ | 
    11 | repo-debug-update | openSUSE-11.4-Update-Debug | No | Yes | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/11.4/ | 
    12 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.4-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.4/repo/non-oss/ | 
    13 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.4-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/ | 
    14 | repo-source | openSUSE-11.4-Source | No | Yes | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/ | 
    15 | videolan | videolan | Yes | Yes | 85 | rpm-md | http://download.videolan.org/pub/vlc/SuSE/11.4/ |
    the only package from Contrib is Chromium with it's deps.

    PS: problem is reproducible on my home system only, as in my signature.
    Last edited by Aekold; 04-Apr-2011 at 02:18. Reason: problem is on home system only.
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    Default Re: 11.3: Where to adjust X11 Timeout Parameter, affecting boot

    Also listing my /etc/init.d/rc5.d/ folder, maybe it will help to determine problem. I have SSHD and NTP enabled, plus VirtualBox from it's official site, maybe it causes troubles with timeouts...
    Code:
    user@desktop:~> l /etc/init.d/rc5.d/
    total 8
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Apr  4 07:48 ./
    drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 Mar 30 07:48 ../
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   10 Mar  2 13:44 K01cpufreq -> ../cpufreq*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    7 Mar  2 13:44 K01cron -> ../cron*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    7 Mar  2 13:44 K01cups -> ../cups*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    7 Mar  2 13:44 K01dbus -> ../dbus*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   15 Mar  2 13:44 K01irq_balancer -> ../irq_balancer*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    9 Mar 12 13:53 K01mcelog -> ../mcelog*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    7 Mar  2 13:43 K01nscd -> ../nscd*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    9 Mar  2 13:44 K01random -> ../random*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    9 Mar  2 13:45 K01splash -> ../splash*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   15 Mar  2 13:45 K01splash_early -> ../splash_early*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    7 Mar 12 14:56 K01sshd -> ../sshd*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    6 Mar  2 13:44 K01xdm -> ../xdm*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    8 Mar  2 13:44 K02acpid -> ../acpid*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Mar 12 14:07 K02alsasound -> ../alsasound*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    8 Mar  2 13:45 K02fbset -> ../fbset*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    6 Mar  2 13:44 K02kbd -> ../kbd*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   10 Mar  2 13:44 K02postfix -> ../postfix*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   10 Mar 12 17:24 K02vboxdrv -> ../vboxdrv*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    6 Mar 12 17:23 K03ntp -> ../ntp*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   19 Mar 12 17:23 K04network-remotefs -> ../network-remotefs*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   10 Mar 12 17:23 K06rpcbind -> ../rpcbind*
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    9 Mar 12 17:23 K07syslog -> ../syslog*                                                                                                                                                                
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   14 Mar 12 17:23 K08earlysyslog -> ../earlysyslog*                                                                                                                                                      
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   10 Mar 12 17:23 K08network -> ../network*                                                                                                                                                              
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    8 Mar  2 13:44 S01acpid -> ../acpid*                                                                                                                                                                  
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   10 Mar  2 13:44 S01cpufreq -> ../cpufreq*                                                                                                                                                              
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    7 Mar  2 13:44 S01dbus -> ../dbus*                                                                                                                                                                    
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   14 Mar  2 13:44 S01earlysyslog -> ../earlysyslog*                                                                                                                                                      
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    8 Mar  2 13:44 S01fbset -> ../fbset*                                                                                                                                                                  
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    9 Mar  2 13:44 S01random -> ../random*                                                                                                                                                                
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   10 Mar  2 13:45 S02network -> ../network*                                                                                                                                                              
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    9 Mar  2 13:45 S03syslog -> ../syslog*                                                                                                                                                                
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   10 Mar  2 13:45 S04rpcbind -> ../rpcbind*                                                                                                                                                              
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   15 Mar  2 13:45 S04splash_early -> ../splash_early*                                                                                                                                                    
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   10 Mar 12 17:24 S04vboxdrv -> ../vboxdrv*                                                                                                                                                              
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    6 Mar  2 13:45 S06kbd -> ../kbd*                                                                                                                                                                      
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Mar 12 14:07 S07alsasound -> ../alsasound*                                                                                                                                                          
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    7 Mar  2 13:44 S07cups -> ../cups*                                                                                                                                                                    
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   15 Mar  2 13:45 S07irq_balancer -> ../irq_balancer*                                                                                                                                                    
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    9 Mar 12 13:53 S07mcelog -> ../mcelog*                                                                                                                                                                
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   19 Mar  2 13:45 S07network-remotefs -> ../network-remotefs*                                                                                                                                            
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    9 Mar  2 13:45 S07splash -> ../splash*                                                                                                                                                                
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    7 Mar 12 14:56 S07sshd -> ../sshd*                                                                                                                                                                    
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    6 Mar 12 15:00 S08ntp -> ../ntp*                                                                                                                                                                      
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    7 Mar  2 13:45 S09nscd -> ../nscd*                                                                                                                                                                    
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   10 Mar  2 13:45 S09postfix -> ../postfix*                                                                                                                                                              
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    6 Mar  2 13:45 S09xdm -> ../xdm*                                                                                                                                                                      
    lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    7 Mar  2 13:45 S10cron -> ../cron*
    In KDM config that timeout is milliseconds, right?
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    Default Re: 11.3: Where to adjust X11 Timeout Parameter, affecting boot

    Made all timeouts 1000, including OpenTimeout, and changed to ServerAttempts=3, it starts with second attempt. Still, I'd like to make KDM the very last service to start, after everything else was started...
    Home: OpenSUSE 12.1, KDE, default "online update" only, AMD Athlon II 245 (dual core, 2.9 GHz), 8GB RAM
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    Default Re: 11.3: Where to adjust X11 Timeout Parameter, affecting boot

    Quote Originally Posted by Aekold View Post
    I've seen symlinks in /etc/init.d/rc5.d, but XDM is already K01. Will it help to make it 00 or 10?
    It should be the "S" numbers that start the service and the "K" numbers for stopping (killing) it.

    I see S11earlyxdm and S12xdm
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    Default Re: 11.3: Where to adjust X11 Timeout Parameter, affecting boot

    On 2011-04-05 07:06, nrickert wrote:
    >
    > Aekold;2317540 Wrote:
    >> I've seen symlinks in /etc/init.d/rc5.d, but XDM is already K01. Will it
    >> help to make it 00 or 10?

    >
    > It should be the "S" numbers that start the service and the "K" numbers
    > for stopping (killing) it.
    >
    > I see S11earlyxdm and S12xdm



    Don't try to change the numbers there. You have to edit the requires inthe
    scripts instead.


    You could try parallel boot no. Just a wild guess, but it is affecting some
    people.

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    Carlos E. R.
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    Default Re: 11.3: Where to adjust X11 Timeout Parameter, affecting boot

    Thank you, disabling parallel boot worked, now KDM starts at once without problems.
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