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    Default 11.4 upgrade stops at udev

    Boot from DVD 11.4 586 32 bit is fine. Loads up and offers me install, boot from HD, check media, firmware etc.
    Select text output, no acpi, check media.
    Linux kernel loads, then black screen showing progress in white text.

    At "Starting udev..." process hangs.
    Eventually (several minutes later) message is returned about "worker" not able to read from "sr0" which I believe is the DVD drive which it has been using to this point.

    I'm running 11.3 normally, udev is not a problem on boot from HD. The DVD media works fine on a Windows laptop showing "Starting udev... ok" and continues. Media checks ok on this machine.

    I'm thinking that no matter what medium I use to install from, HD, DVD, net etc this udev problem is going to hit me again unless there is a hint I can pass to the bootup process.

    After reading about other experiences with this issue I removed all the non-standard hardware and no difference. The DVD drive seems to be the issue. Bootup is already using it, and yet udev cannot find it. Any suggestions?

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    Default Re: 11.4 upgrade stops at udev

    Quote Originally Posted by colbec View Post
    Boot from DVD 11.4 586 32 bit is fine. Loads up and offers me install, boot from HD, check media, firmware etc.
    Select text output, no acpi, check media.
    Linux kernel loads, then black screen showing progress in white text.

    At "Starting udev..." process hangs.
    My Dell Studio 1537 with Radeon HD3450 graphics would hang right at that point and then give a garbbled screen with multicolored lines. Booting with nomodeset worked for me.

    I recommend you try the boot code (in grub) "nomodeset" (no quotes), and if that fails, try a safe-settings boot.

    If that fails, and if you are convinced the then you could remove you DVD drive and attempt a USB installation (and purchase a different DVD drive). Of course that is very very very far from ideal.

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    Default Re: 11.4 upgrade stops at udev

    A silly couple of questions, but they have to be asked.

    Did you conduct the MD5sum check of the downloaded iso file against the MD5sum posted on the openSUSE website BEFORE burning ? Were they the same ?

    Did you burn the DVD to the slowest speed your burner allows to a +R or -R media (NOT to an RW) using high quality DVD media (and not some bargain basement special) ?

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    md5 and sha1 are both good. Downloaded iso twice and burned twice since I thought the first attempt was incomplete, both disks behave identically.
    Media check of DVDs are good on the Windows laptop. DVDs are good quality. Reliable in many applications so far including previous versions of Opensuse since 11.0.
    Nomodeset approach no improvement.Thanks for the suggestion.
    Looks like the drive is not helping.

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    Default Re: 11.4 upgrade stops at udev

    can confirm this and it's not a badly written cd/dvd. One one machine here, the KDE live cd won't go over the point where udev starts. Just stops and nada.

    On the other machine, it goes further but when kde starts it complains about nothing being writable? so every app and even plasma-desktop, kwin etc... all crash.

    I'm downloading dvd now and will try to install from that one on one of the machines. Hopefully it will work.

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    Default Re: 11.4 upgrade stops at udev

    Quote Originally Posted by colbec View Post
    md5 and sha1 are both good. Downloaded iso twice and burned twice since I thought the first attempt was incomplete, both disks behave identically.
    Media check of DVDs are good on the Windows laptop. DVDs are good quality. Reliable in many applications so far including previous versions of Opensuse since 11.0.
    Nomodeset approach no improvement.Thanks for the suggestion.
    Looks like the drive is not helping.
    When you first boot your burned disk, one of the options is to check installation media. You should do that before actually choosing to upgrade (or install).
    I found that although the md5sum check verified the ISO file, k3b burned faulty disks.
    xfburn burned working disks for me.

    Tony

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    Default Re: 11.4 upgrade stops at udev

    Thanks Tony, but I think the disks are good. Work on laptop.

    Also, I just rebooted from my old 11.3 DVD and am getting the same problem as the new 11.4. The 11.3 disk is defiinitely the disk I used to upgrade from 11.2 to 11.3 so it must have passed by the udev check at that time. Now if I boot into the 11.3 disk and try the media check option I get the same "starting udev..." and then failure. Looks like something has changed in hardware, but it seems to be confined to the DVD drive since I get the same thing with all non standard hardware removed (IBM Netvista 6792-22U). I don't have a spare DVD drive to swap out.

    The very odd thing is that once the normal OS 11.3 is booted from hard drive, DVD drive works fine. I can use it to burn, read, swap disks in and out and Dolphin handles all of this without problem.

    I'll keep trying things.

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    Default Re: 11.4 upgrade stops at udev

    On 2011-03-13 12:36, colbec wrote:
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    > Thanks Tony, but I think the disks are good. Work on laptop.
    >
    > Also, I just rebooted from my old 11.3 DVD and am getting the same
    > problem as the new 11.4. The 11.3 disk is defiinitely the disk I used to
    > upgrade from 11.2 to 11.3 so it must have passed by the udev check at
    > that time. Now if I boot into the 11.3 disk and try the media check
    > option I get the same "starting udev..." and then failure.


    Maybe you changed a bios setting.

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    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar)

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    Default Re: 11.4 upgrade stops at udev

    FWIW - I found a workaround for my situation.

    Boot from DVD, select install, wait for kernel to load, hit ESC to go to text mode, wait for "Starting udev... " to appear. It thinks and thinks.

    Manually eject DVD, leave DVD in tray.

    CLI notes "ok", press drive button again to reload DVD.

    CLI continues to USB detection and presents installation/upgrade screen.

    YMMV. My 11.4 is now working.

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