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    Default USB installation - password not accepted on different computer

    I have installed suse 11.3 on a USB drive and can boot from it successfully.

    The install was done using my desktop computer.

    I then booted my netbook using the usb drive, linux loads and runs fine, however when i need to enter the password to make any changes it will not accept it. I can not even access the hard disk in the netbook.

    I rebooted using the desktop just to check that the password I was using was correct and it worked fine.

    USB drive is a 250GB western digital with only linux on it
    Desktop is running Windows XP service pack 3, 4GB RAM
    Netbook is running Windows 7 Starter 2GB RAM.

    I have searched for a solution but did not find anything that helped.

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    Greg B

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    Welcome here.

    Can you please explain which password you mean. "The password" is a bit vague in a system where every user (should) hava a password and where passwords for other purposes like encrypted disks may also exist. The ""to make any changes" does not clarify much. Changees to sysem confif=guration files, the users desktop, ...
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    On 03/05/2011 10:36 AM, greg-b wrote:

    > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


    knowing sometimes netbook keyboards have magic keys which change key
    press values, i wonder out loud if maybe your root password has any
    non-number or non-standard asci characters (puncuation or other
    symbols) which might be different when generated on the desktop vs
    netbook keys..

    just for fun, you might wanna try making the root pass (using YaST on
    the desktop) simple numbers and letters only...just to rule out that
    possibility....

    meanwhile, i scratch my head a while..

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    Default Re: USB installation - password not accepted on different computer

    Thanks for the welcome Henk

    Sorry, i am very new to Linux

    I do not have any encrypted drives,
    the password is the one that i supplied during installation for the user that was created, the one i need to enter if i try to run YAsT ... when it opens it says "as superuser"


    DenverD ... the password consists of only letters, no punctuation or special characters.



    Thanks again

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    You should have (at least) two users of concern to you. One is the one the install asked you to create (the one you use for your work normal from day to day work, where "work" is all the things you use your system for including "fun"). The other one is root (also known as the superuser, the one you use to manage your system)

    These should have different passwords. Alas, the install procedure offers you by default to have the same password for both. You should have unchecked this and entered a seperate password for root. But as the installation software offers you the wrong default, you are not to blame.

    You should NEVER log in with that user root. When you need superuser status (like running YaST) the system will ask you for the root password.
    Also read SDB:Login as root - openSUSE.

    I hope you now understand why I asked which password. And, even while they might be the same at the moment they are the password of two users and we want to find out which one gives you problems.

    Thus, when you boot the system, I suppose it ends in showing the GUI login screen. When you enter there your normal username (NOT root) and then the password, can that user then login into the desktop (you did not mention if you use KDE or Gnome).

    Please try to answer this and then we can go for the next step.
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    Default Re: USB installation - password not accepted on different computer

    I am using Gnome.
    When i boot the system it goes straight to the GUI interface and does not show any login screen.

    Would i be correct to assume then that i am logged in as the account i created during installation (GregB) and that account would have the same password as root as you said.

    I would guess then the first thing i need to do is change the password for my normal user account (GregB).

    Maybe after reading your link i should do a reinstall and start again.

    I am going on holiday for a week and probably will not have any internet access so will have to leave this on hold for the time being.

    Thanks again for your help.

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    You can do it either way. But in any case IMO you should always log on and the root password should be different then any user password. Auto login seems nice but it is a potential security problem. Why someone decided to default it to the same password is a real head scratcher. I guess they wanted things to be more Windows like. Bad idea.

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    +1.

    You can either change the root password or GregB's password (it is a real handtwister to have upper and lower case in a username). Or both.

    And yes, switch that autologon out.

    Reinstall is not needed at all, this is not an OS wher you reinstall because of every little thing you want different.

    Wishing you a nice holliday. Come back after it to ask for details.
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: USB installation - password not accepted on different computer

    During my holiday i had a little bit of time to play around with Linux ... I stumbled upon the answer to my problem.

    DenverD's suggestion helped onsiderably

    The netbook has some keys that have additional characters accessed by holding down the function key. When i tried to enter my password instead of entering the "primary" key it was entering the "function" key, so if i held down the function key when i hit the key it gave me the character i wanted. ie it worked opposite to what you would expect.


    I will do some research and see if i can work out how to turn off autologon and change passwords, if i cant i will ask. but i prefer to try and work things out for myself and only ask for help if i cant.

    Thanks again for all the help

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    Default Re: USB installation - password not accepted on different computer

    On 03/12/2011 01:36 PM, greg-b wrote:
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    > DenverD's suggestion helped onsiderably


    welcome! happy to hear you are on the road to pure happiness!


    > I will do some research and see if i can work out how to turn off
    > autologon and change passwords, if i cant i will ask. but i prefer to
    > try and work things out for myself and only ask for help if i cant.


    just a word of caution about password changes...instead of _trying_
    everything you can think of to change the passwords (because that can
    pretty easily result in you locking yourself out of your own machine)
    READ READ READ first...(and see my sig)

    have you found the documentation yet? maybe it is in there, maybe not,
    but try: http://doc.opensuse.org

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