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    Default KDE 4.6 Konqueror embedded text editor (only viewer now)

    i recently updated a machine from 4.5 to 4.6 Factory and the Embedded Text Editor function for editing text files inside Konqueror seems to be broken (viewing file is fine, but no editing). Doing research i found that it had been reported, but ignored as an "opensuse problem":

    Bug 259338 - I cannot edit text files when I preview them in konqueror by using "Embedded Advanced Text Editor" which is not a case in 4.5

    seems like i remember that it was a kate plugin or katepart functionality, but others would know more.

    it was apparently reported in the RC days and disregarded, perhaps someone has more info about it?

    it doesn't seem to be a config file problem since a new user is in the same boat.

    for me it is oft-used and would be sorely missed.

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    Default Re: KDE 4.6 Konqueror embedded text editor (only viewer now)

    On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 09:36:01 +0530, j xavier
    <j_xavier@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    >
    > i recently updated a machine from 4.5 to 4.6 Factory and the Embedded
    > Text Editor function for editing text files inside Konqueror seems to be
    > broken (viewing file is fine, but no editing). Doing research i found
    > that it had been reported, but ignored as an "opensuse problem":
    >
    > 'Bug 259338 - I cannot edit text files when I preview them in konqueror
    > by using \"Embedded Advanced Text Editor\" which is not a case in 4.5'
    > (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259338)
    >
    > seems like i remember that it was a kate plugin or katepart
    > functionality, but others would know more.
    >
    > it was apparently reported in the RC days and disregarded, perhaps
    > someone has more info about it?
    >
    > it doesn't seem to be a config file problem since a new user is in the
    > same boat.
    >
    > for me it is oft-used and would be sorely missed.
    >


    same thing here, i find this really annoying. i commented on that bug
    report, but at first it was said it's an openSUSE-only thing, while later,
    if i remember correctly, a gentoo user chimed in, saying it happened to
    him, too.

    i'm surprised that, apparently, so few people use the embedded text viewer
    with it's editing feature; i found this really useful. somewhere i read
    it's supposed to be caused by config. options, but i couldn't find any way
    to make it work again. no idea what to do...

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    phanisvara wrote:

    > On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 09:36:01 +0530, j xavier
    > <j_xavier@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> i recently updated a machine from 4.5 to 4.6 Factory and the Embedded
    >> Text Editor function for editing text files inside Konqueror seems to be
    >> broken (viewing file is fine, but no editing). Doing research i found
    >> that it had been reported, but ignored as an "opensuse problem":
    >>
    >> 'Bug 259338 - I cannot edit text files when I preview them in konqueror
    >> by using \"Embedded Advanced Text Editor\" which is not a case in 4.5'
    >> (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259338)
    >>
    >> seems like i remember that it was a kate plugin or katepart
    >> functionality, but others would know more.
    >>
    >> it was apparently reported in the RC days and disregarded, perhaps
    >> someone has more info about it?
    >>
    >> it doesn't seem to be a config file problem since a new user is in the
    >> same boat.
    >>
    >> for me it is oft-used and would be sorely missed.
    >>

    >
    > same thing here, i find this really annoying. i commented on that bug
    > report, but at first it was said it's an openSUSE-only thing, while later,
    > if i remember correctly, a gentoo user chimed in, saying it happened to
    > him, too.
    >
    > i'm surprised that, apparently, so few people use the embedded text viewer
    > with it's editing feature; i found this really useful. somewhere i read
    > it's supposed to be caused by config. options, but i couldn't find any way
    > to make it work again. no idea what to do...


    And here I thought I was the only one with this issue - it bit me with the
    11.4 RC so I went back and checked 11.3 w/KDE4.5. Same bug.

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    Default Re: KDE 4.6 Konqueror embedded text editor (only viewer now)

    conclusion is, after annoying as many people as i dare,

    there was a long standing bug repaired which removed the edit capabilities, and the edit capabilities were never "intended" to be present...... hence, it was a good thing, konqueror is more "bug-free".

    such goes the party line.

    somehow, i can't see konqueror as "better" now, the code might be better, but it is less useful. I had changed the file association in konqueror to view text files with the embedded editor so quick edits were a snap.

    i guess i'm in the minority.(or maybe i just don't know the right person to blackmail)

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    Will Honea NNTP User

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    j xavier wrote:

    >
    > conclusion is, after annoying as many people as i dare,
    >
    > there was a long standing bug repaired which removed the edit
    > capabilities, and the edit capabilities were never "intended" to be
    > present...... hence, it was a good thing, konqueror is more "bug-free".
    >
    > such goes the party line.
    >
    > somehow, i can't see konqueror as "better" now, the code might be
    > better, but it is less useful. I had changed the file association in
    > konqueror to view text files with the embedded editor so quick edits
    > were a snap.
    >
    > i guess i'm in the minority.(or maybe i just don't know the right
    > person to blackmail)


    If you are saying they fixed what wasn't broken, you get my vote! I used
    that a edit feature a lot!

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    Default Re: KDE 4.6 Konqueror embedded text editor (only viewer now)

    On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:06:03 +0530, j xavier
    <j_xavier@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    >
    > conclusion is, after annoying as many people as i dare,
    >
    > there was a long standing bug repaired which removed the edit
    > capabilities, and the edit capabilities were never "intended" to be
    > present...... hence, it was a good thing, konqueror is more "bug-free".
    >
    > such goes the party line.
    >
    > somehow, i can't see konqueror as "better" now, the code might be
    > better, but it is less useful. I had changed the file association in
    > konqueror to view text files with the embedded editor so quick edits
    > were a snap.
    >
    > i guess i'm in the minority.(or maybe i just don't know the right
    > person to blackmail)
    >


    i've seen this argument too, on the KDE bug tracker, but only mentioned by
    a few people and never confirmed by any 'official' ones. it sounds very
    strange, since the menu says "embedded advanced text editor," not
    "...viewer." in the same bug thread i saw others (whom i didn't recognize)
    saying that the embedded editor was working for them, and it was an
    openSUSE thing. i don't have that bug thread handy right now and don't
    have time to search for it; i think there's several bugs re. this. not
    sure if all of them are marked duplicates...in any case, it didn't seem
    like a clear-cut reply. the only reply i got on the kde mailing list was
    that it was working (for the guy who replied), and nobody else chimed in.
    strange...

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    Default Re: KDE 4.6 Konqueror embedded text editor (only viewer now)

    yes there was a bug report way back in Dec during development releases:

    Bug 259338 - I cannot edit text files when I preview them in konqueror by using "Embedded Advanced Text Editor" which is not a case in 4.5

    my inquiries on irc.freenode with kde staffers indicate that Comment#1 is correct and it is a dead issue. Nobody feels a need to pursue any solution, now it's "fixed" the way they intended.

    they fixed a bug nobody complained about ...... my favorite scenario was evaluating scripts, tab with the script file open in the editor, tab with the target folder of the output of the script and the embedded terminal.... all in konqueror.... run the script, edit if needed, run it again, etc.

    i guess the vi input mode listed is a tease, someone somewhere is laughing.

    what bothers me the most is someone somewhere actually thinks this was a good thing.
    Last edited by j_xavier; 07-Mar-2011 at 00:10. Reason: sp

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    On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 13:06:01 +0530, j xavier
    <j_xavier@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    > ...
    >they fixed a bug nobody complained about ...... my favorite scenario
    > was evaluating scripts, tab with the script file open in the editor, tab
    > with the target folder of the output of the script and the embedded
    > terminal.... all in konqueror.... run the script, edit if needed, run it
    > again, etc.
    >
    > i guess the vi input mode listed is a tease, someone somewhere is
    > laughing.
    >
    > what bothers me the most is someone somewhere actually thinks this was
    > a good thing.
    >


    -1

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    Just to confirm that in 4.6 release the same bug is present. This functionality has been working in many releases. I used it alot. Now it will be a slow editor loading and yet another window cluttering my screen. This is so handy incombination with split screen. I wish I hadn't upgraded!

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