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    Hi everyone!

    I'm not new to Linux in general, but currently I am a little frustrated with SUSE.

    From Ubuntu I am used to installing all kinds of software packages (literally EVERYTHING) from the repositories. However, having changed the distribution recently, I noticed that apparently SUSE doesn't have this nice feature.

    I have already added a bunch of additional repositories to the software manager, but still even some very basic programs are not available. I am talking about things like subversion client svn, nedit, etc...

    I am getting shirty by always googling for single rpm's to download. And anyway installing via the package manager is preferable, since then the software is updated with the regular system update.

    Anyway, I'd really appreciate some help here. Am I missing any really comprehensive repository? What is the philosophy behind not including many repositories as standard?

    Thanks for any comments!
    Andreas

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    Hello puetti and welcome to the community!

    Quote Originally Posted by puetti
    Hi everyone!

    I'm not new to Linux in general, but currently I am a little frustrated with SUSE.

    From Ubuntu I am used to installing all kinds of software packages (literally EVERYTHING) from the repositories. However, having changed the distribution recently, I noticed that apparently SUSE doesn't have this nice feature.

    I have already added a bunch of additional repositories to the software manager, but still even some very basic programs are not available. I am talking about things like subversion client svn, nedit, etc...

    I am getting shirty by always googling for single rpm's to download. And anyway installing via the package manager is preferable, since then the software is updated with the regular system update.

    Anyway, I'd really appreciate some help here. Am I missing any really comprehensive repository? What is the philosophy behind not including many repositories as standard?

    Thanks for any comments!
    Andreas
    I'm afraid you didn't give enough information to help you.
    Which version of openSUSE are you using?
    Could you post the output of this command:
    Code:
    zypper lr -d
    About svn it should be in the default repositories under the name subversion.

    Also I recommend you don't install single rpms from the internet.
    If an application isn't provided in any repo try installing it from source or make sure the rpm is made for the openSUSE version you're running.

    Best of luck!
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    Hi puetti,

    You'll find additionnal repos here : Additional package repositories - openSUSE

    You'll then have access to a lot more soft, like in ubuntu.

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    On 02/16/2011 05:36 PM, puetti wrote:

    > Anyway, I'd really appreciate some help here. Am I missing any really
    > comprehensive repository?


    sure, you are looking in the wrong way...

    go here and look for "subversion client svn, nedit, etc":

    http://software.opensuse.org/search

    NOTEs:
    -spin the dial to _your_ version
    -many results? use your noggin to pick the right option for you
    -every source with 'factory' in the name is for the NEXT version and
    may kill your system
    -also careful to watch for 'playground' and 'unstable'
    -alternative, try: http://packages.opensuse-community.org/

    most all is available and if not there is always the openSUSE Build
    Service <https://build.opensuse.org/>

    *NOTE*: one of the easiest ways known to kill your openSUSE system is
    to add and enable a whole bunch of repos....there ARE things out there
    which will interact and step on other packages and . . .

    lots of info to catch up on (which is to say, this is not apt-get-land)...

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    puetti wrote:
    > I'm not new to Linux in general, but currently I am a little frustrated
    > with SUSE.
    >
    > From Ubuntu I am used to installing all kinds of software packages
    > (literally EVERYTHING) from the repositories. However, having changed
    > the distribution recently, I noticed that apparently SUSE doesn't have
    > this nice feature.
    >
    > I have already added a bunch of additional repositories to the software
    > manager, but still even some very basic programs are not available. I am
    > talking about things like subversion client svn, nedit, etc...
    >
    > I am getting shirty by always googling for single rpm's to download.
    > And anyway installing via the package manager is preferable, since then
    > the software is updated with the regular system update.
    >
    > Anyway, I'd really appreciate some help here. Am I missing any really
    > comprehensive repository? What is the philosophy behind not including
    > many repositories as standard?


    You don't say what version you're using.

    svn is in the subversion package from the standard repository, so not
    finding it sounds like finger trouble.

    If you're looking for a file, then in YaST you need to search for 'RPM
    "Provides"'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puetti View Post
    I have already added a bunch of additional repositories to the software manager, but still even some very basic programs are not available. I am talking about things like subversion client svn, nedit, etc...
    Welcome to openSUSE.

    As you have discovered, openSUSE is not Ubuntu. I recommend you do NOT add many repositories like you noted you have. IMHO that just leads to instability, such that new users invariably run into problems.

    There are two superb search engines for openSUSE below, where you can search on all sorts of applications. Note the search engines search different repositories:


    The repositories I recommend for openSUSE are only the following 4 :
    • OSS - The main official openSUSE repository, open source software only.
    • Non-OSS - Non free (as in freedom) software official repository, containing apps such as Flashplayer, Java, Opera, IPW-firmware, etc.
    • Update - Repository for official security and bugfix updates to both OSS and Update.
    • Packman - the largest 3rd party respository - packaged by packman packagers and typically (not always) has superior packaging to other non-official repositories and also packman packagers are contactable via their mailing list


    Its very fast and easy with zypper to add repositories and remove them, which is what I recommend. Keep your active repositories limited to those 4 and only those 4, and add (and immediately remove) others on an as required basis. Else unless you are a very solid average or advanced user, with extra repositories beyond what I recommend you could experience stability problems.

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    Hi everyone and thanks for your helpful answers!

    Indeed, I found everything I needed under software.opensuse.org/search. That was a good hint!

    And I reduced the number of active repositories to the four that oldcpu mentioned. You are probably right concerning system (in)stability and maintenance with many repos.

    Thanks guys so far.

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