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    Default Re: A Matter of Trust - The Story of where we have been with Technology and Computers

    On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 03:36:01 GMT, brunomcl
    <brunomcl@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

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    >hendersj;2329664 Wrote:
    >> (not that that's a particularly winning strategy IMNSHO, but if you want
    >> to do that in your own space, then fine).

    >
    >Nice point, even nicer on-the-spot acronym .
    >
    >I have to say I find the postings disjointed, hard to understand what
    >the OP means. I doubt it will reach a wide "audience", but then perhaps
    >it's a niche thing, way above my level of understanding/interest.


    IMNSHO has been around since the mid 1980s.

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    Default Re: A Matter of Trust - The Story of where we have been with Technologyand Computers

    On 04/29/2011 02:22 AM, josephkk wrote:
    > On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 03:36:01 GMT, brunomcl
    > <brunomcl@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
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    >>
    >> hendersj;2329664 Wrote:
    >>> (not that that's a particularly winning strategy IMNSHO, but if you want
    >>> to do that in your own space, then fine).

    >>
    >> Nice point, even nicer on-the-spot acronym .
    >>
    >> I have to say I find the postings disjointed, hard to understand what
    >> the OP means. I doubt it will reach a wide "audience", but then perhaps
    >> it's a niche thing, way above my level of understanding/interest.

    >
    > IMNSHO has been around since the mid 1980s.



    heh, i don't see where anyone claimed to have originated anything here,
    especially no one claimed to have minted this old, and widely used
    initialism...

    the fun was the irony that Jim (a forum moderator/administrator) used it
    in _this_ particular setting..

    really rich! nearing the comic value and level of a sneak attack
    pun...and, feigned to be unplanned, but not.

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    Default Re: A Matter of Trust - The Story of where we have been with Technology and Computers

    Quote Originally Posted by josephkk View Post
    IMNSHO has been around since the mid 1980s.
    I'm aware of that, just hadn't seen it for a long time. When I started on fora I throroughly read a couple of acronym sites, it was impossible to understand most posts otherwise.

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    Default Re: A Matter of Trust - The Story of where we have been withTechnology and Computers

    On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 07:22:47 +0000, DenverD wrote:

    > feigned to be unplanned, but not.


    Actually, I was being perfectly honest about it - I've participated in
    blog comment threads where if you disagree with the author, your comments
    get deleted so it looks like everyone agrees with the author.

    I don't see that as a particularly winning strategy - that kind of
    attempt at 'damage control' usually backfires against bloggers who adopt
    a very strict "no dissent" policy - because they can't control the entire
    Internet.

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    Default Re: A Matter of Trust - The Story of where we have been withTechnology and Computers

    Off course this was intended for discussion - Its was going to be a six part exercise as stated...Up until I posted the item as of 10-Feb-2011 07:22
    discussion was not necessary - It was just history...After quoting historical fact, as stated; I changed from being an historical arbiter into as stated
    at post 10-Feb-2011 07:22 - "I'm now more of a guide....."
    The relevance of where Unix was created together the the comms protocol is very reliant to our current position with Linux....Others posting this is boring do not need discussion...The technical aspects which started on 10-Feb-2011 07:22 post was the first post that invited discussion on a technical level...Placing the discussion, based on History and Technical development of Unix and TCP could not be more relevant than here..Healthy discussion after post 10-Feb-2011 07:22, was encouraged, no one posted a discussion point after post post 10-Feb-2011 07:22.

    Look I loose nothing... I wanted to post historical fact and then invite healthy technical discussion on a subject matter few get the opportunity to ever ask and find answers for!

    ...Poetically...Words fail me...and my belief in people also fail me
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    Default Re: A Matter of Trust - The Story of where we have been with Technology and Computers

    If you accept it that people are fallible and sometimes just contrary you will never be disappointed much.
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    Default Re: A Matter of Trust - The Story of where we have been with Technologyand Computers

    On 05/26/2011 02:06 AM, zczc2311 wrote:
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    > Off course this was intended for discussion - Its was going to be a six
    > part exercise as stated...Up until I posted the item as of 10-Feb-2011
    > 07:22
    > discussion was not necessary - It was just history...After quoting
    > historical fact, as stated; I changed from being an historical arbiter
    > into as stated
    > at post 10-Feb-2011 07:22 - "I'm now more of a guide....."


    instead of dribbling out parts piecemeal, you could have presented a
    more organized and rational whole bit of cloth by writing all six parts
    off line, and THEN posted them--while, making your intentions *clear*
    sections A, B and etc were historical 'facts' not open for discussion,
    and then D, E, and etc written to spur a "healthy technical discussion"..


    >
    > Look I loose nothing...


    sure you did!

    if nothing else you lost your potential audience in your first few
    disjointed, off topic posts filled with "historical facts" without cites..

    and, if it were me, i'd feel like i lost my self respect.


    > I wanted to post historical fact and then
    > invite healthy technical discussion on a subject matter few get the
    > opportunity to ever ask and find answers for!


    you might have been more successful had you made what you wanted *clear*..

    had you written all six parts and then an introduction/executive summary
    to lead the reader to understand your _wants_ and aims, it _might_ have
    worked for you..

    my experience is that the reader wants a map of where we are
    going..._before_ he climbs on the bus.


    > ..Poetically...Words fail me...and my belief in people also fail me


    my "belief in people" remains unchanged: Some folks just can't take a
    hint....so, let me spell it out clearly for you:

    this is not your soapbox, it is the openSUSE community's place to spread
    out and chew up some words..

    show us your credentials proving membership in _this_ community (how
    have you contributed to and earned the right to use our soapbox?), *and*
    show how anything you have written relates to openSUSE..

    if you can't do those two simple things, then fall silent, please.

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    Default Re: A Matter of Trust - The Story of where we have been with Technologyand Computers

    Bunch of old rubbish on this thread.
    Last edited by swerdna; 26-May-2011 at 04:23.
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    On 2011-05-26 09:05, DenverD wrote:

    > you might have been more successful had you made what you wanted *clear*..
    >
    > had you written all six parts and then an introduction/executive summary to
    > lead the reader to understand your _wants_ and aims, it _might_ have worked
    > for you..
    >
    > my experience is that the reader wants a map of where we are
    > going..._before_ he climbs on the bus.


    Absolutely.

    I got lost in the first post.

    And seeing that the poster insists on posting (ranting!) without
    listening... Uff. :-/


    >> ..Poetically...Words fail me...and my belief in people also fail me

    >
    > my "belief in people" remains unchanged: Some folks just can't take a
    > hint....so, let me spell it out clearly for you:
    >
    > this is not your soapbox, it is the openSUSE community's place to spread
    > out and chew up some words..
    >
    > show us your credentials proving membership in _this_ community (how have
    > you contributed to and earned the right to use our soapbox?), *and* show
    > how anything you have written relates to openSUSE..
    >
    > if you can't do those two simple things, then fall silent, please.


    Absolutely!

    As it is, his post is just SPAM.
    Which is a hard thing to do in a soapbox...

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