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    Default Sorry, its a silly question I know but :(

    I know its a silly question, but I am very green. I had a play with Linux some while ago, but could never find one that worked with my computer. I know have one that worked, well so far. Haven't sorted out the printer as yet though. I am trying to locate the application for links onto the desktop. eg. Want to put Opera browser linked to the desktop, or have to locate the application for things to work.
    Thank you for your help and patients

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    Default Re: Sorry, its a silly question I know but :(

    So do you want an Opera Browser icon on the desktop?
    What Desktop Environment are you using? (e.g. KDE or GNOME)
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    Default Re: Sorry, its a silly question I know but :(

    KDE. I found on Windows7 and now OpenSuse Firefox behaves strangely. Opera is more stable. But I just want to know where the applications are stored so as I can link them to the desktop or to another application

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    Default Re: Sorry, its a silly question I know but :(

    Presuming Opera is installed you should click the KDE menu button (bottom left corner), Then click Applications then in there go to Internet -> Web Browser. Then drag the Opera icon to the Desktop (Desktop Folder plasmoid by default). Then right click on the Opera icon on the desktop and click Properties. Then click the Permissions tab and tick the "Is executable" box. Then click OK.
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    Default Re: Sorry, its a silly question I know but :(

    Many thanks. Now I know how that works where would I find the other applications. Just like Windows I go to Program files and search out the .exe and I have the software linked. Where is the equivalent in OpenSuse?

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Sorry, its a silly question I know but :(

    If you want to search for applications just go to the KDE menu again and you can search for an application with the "Search" box. For example if I typed "terminal" in that search box (without quotation marks of course) it will come up with Konsole which is a terminal emulator for KDE. Then you can drag that to the desktop if you wanted.
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    Default Re: Sorry, its a silly question I know but :(

    TonyBennett wrote:
    > Just like Windows I go to Program files and search out
    > the .exe and I have the software linked. Where is the equivalent in
    > OpenSuse?


    there are LOTS of things on Linux which do no exist on Windows, so
    "Just like Windows" is a habit you need to begin to get away from..

    the Linux file system does not have a "Programs" directory where all
    the .exe files ever added is kept...Linux is FAR advanced over that
    old 1980s file system model...in Linux there are no .exe files, there
    ARE of course executable files but they do not need an .exe tacked on
    to the end..

    do it the new way, install your applications using YaST and they will
    automatically (almost always) be added to the menu...then, like the
    other poster said: open the menu, find what you are looking for by
    name and drag that icon to the desktop, or panel, or folder, or
    superDuperLauncheroo, or maybe to the moon (eventually)..

    by the way, some of the things you did on Windows will not only NOT
    work here, some of them will actually do harm here....like, did you
    log into Windows as the Administrator? don't do it here, we call our
    administrator "Root" so, do it the Linux way:
    http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Login_as_root

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    Default Re: Sorry, its a silly question I know but :(

    Quote Originally Posted by DenverD View Post
    do it the new way, install your applications using YaST and they will
    automatically (almost always) be added to the menu...
    Y'know, after years of using Linux exclusively for my own needs, this is still one of my sticking points: how do you find out where Yast/RPM/zypper put the darn icons? A search in KDE will get you to the installed app (if you get the title right), but it won't tell you *where* it put it, unless you open the menu editor and search through the menu manually. Or, go back into Yast and look through the "installed files" list.

    In this way, I can certainly relate to the OP's problem with finding his newly installed software.
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    Default Re: Sorry, its a silly question I know but :(

    The thing is: it is not really very interesting where exactly executables are put. Why should one want to know? Applications are handled by the package manager anyway, so there's no real need to search for them.

    I might have a different attitude from a common (ex-)Win user, because I started with Linux.

    Either way, if you want to know the path to a executable (is that what you mean by 'darn icons'?), you can use the command which:

    Code:
    kalle@hoppers:~> which hydrogen
    /usr/bin/hydrogen
    Most executables can be find in /usr/bin/, but there are other possible paths as well.

    One more thing: DenverD is correct that within KDE, you will find an icon in the menu right after the install of a new application, unfortunately that does not seem to be the case with GNOME, which (as far as my little experience goes) will need a restart of the desktop (GNOME-fans, please correct me if I'm wrong here).

    Edit: Argh, twelveeighty, I kind of misread your post - you were referring to where to find the icons in the menus... I got that mixed up, sorry. Indeed, it is not always clear which segment of a menu is used for an application, but in most cases, the defaults are quite sane, if you ask me. A videoplayer will be found in "Multimedia" → "Player" or something, but you are right: in some cases one has to browse a bit to find a certain program.

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    Default Re: Sorry, its a silly question I know but :(

    On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:36:03 +0530, gropiuskalle
    <gropiuskalle@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    > Code:
    > --------------------
    > kalle@hoppers:~> which hydrogen
    > /usr/bin/hydrogen
    > --------------------


    roughly, "which" shows you the path to the executable, while "whereis"
    shows you also where sources, man pages, and other related files are
    stored. both commands have man pages that explain their functions and
    different command line options.

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