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    Jon_Freeman NNTP User

    Default A rant and a plea for help

    This all started when I read about the bash script bug and decided I really should update more...

    Anyway, I start with Laptop, OpenSuse 12.2. I think. No update I could find so I thought I'd put 13.1 on as an upgrade. Anyway, that all went horribly wrong and I wound up with what seemed to be a mishmash of the two versions and a completely unstable system. I gave up and reinstalled 13.1 only to find that somewhere along the line the 1200x800 resolution I'd given earlier in the process got changed to (I guess 640x400) and in KDE after the install, I couldn't see what I was doing as boxes went beyond the bottom of the screen. In fairness, it's Via Chrome 9 is not the easiest and I've had to change it to use vesa drivers before (within my patience) I could not find a way round this one. In anger, I installed Fedora 20 on it and it works fine.

    Anyway that's just a side issue. Yesterday, I decided to update my multipurpose server box (12.3). After rebooting, I noticed I was still on the old kernel (uname -a) nothing new there btw... my (13.1) desktop hangs when grub2 updates and I eventually reverted to the older grub as a resolution...

    This one has an efi boot, so not so simple. Anyway, having no interest in the finer points (I don't mind spending time setting things up once and finding out how, am willing even to write a few lines of code, eg http://mobd.jonbanjo.com/jfcupsprintservice/setup.php I wrote this for my android, but once set up, I just want things to work and derive no joy from meddling with systems), I thought I had a brain wave. If I asked Yast software management to update thegrub bits, it might just get the bootloader right.

    It did and it didn't. The .40 version did come up as default but the system became unbootable waiting on what, on reading, was something to do with fakeraid.

    Unperturbed at that point I decided to upgrade it to 13.1

    Lo and behold, this did give me a bootable system but I've got loads of problems with it.

    I've not looked at this one yet but it's decided to put the screen in a smaller box. It connects to the living room tv and as well as server tasks is mythtv frontend. The update of OS has produced a sort of black margin say 1 or 2 inch wide.

    I have got Apache to start again....

    I have solved some mail problems (mostly amavis not set to start and the emails to Cyrus winding up in a black hole) but I now find that while I can login with Thunderbird, my parent's logins no longer work. Also there seemed to be some permission problems (eg mail jon) with maildrop - postfix check gave some errors.

    Mythtv has become some bizare mix of bits (eventually) seeming to read the database and other bits not (eg. setup shows no capture cards but the web page shows them as
    there but not connected).

    ...

    Anyway as I type I'm wondering (especially as a failure to update grub correctly triggere this) where the quality control is, I'm doing this at the same time as realising that I'm only a user, throwing a lot of different tasks on one box, realising it's free, have been in a position where between circumstances (mostly my 2 android apps suddenly got a run of negative reviews at one of my times when I was having severe problems with alcohol so I know what it is like to feel stressed with trying to put something out for free - something btw I only tried as open source has done a lot for me) where is the quality control?

    But what's going on and, especially, how might I resolve the cyrus one?

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    Default Re: A rant and a plea for help

    On 2014-10-03 22:36, Jon Freeman wrote:

    > Anyway as I type I'm wondering (especially as a failure to update grub
    > correctly triggere this) where the quality control is, I'm doing this
    > at the same time as realising that I'm only a user, throwing a lot of
    > different tasks on one box, realising it's free, have been in a position


    Well, you see, Linux is free, but you pay with your time and work. So
    they say :-)


    > But what's going on and, especially, how might I resolve the cyrus one?


    By asking about each separate problem, on a separate thread each, on the
    appropriate forum here for each question. This is the chit-chat forum,
    so no problem solving here, just rambling ;-)

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    Carlos E. R.
    (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

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    Jon_Freeman NNTP User

    Default Re: A rant and a plea for help

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2014-10-03 22:36, Jon Freeman wrote:

    Well, you see, Linux is free, but you pay with your time and work. So
    they say :-)
    Must admit my own time and work (mostly keeping parents happy then) reduced with the switch to this distro from Win2K back in the days of I think 9.2 so it's not all been bad. It would also be fair to say I'd not have tried what I have tried without OS

    but still I rant! And wonder about QC.

    > But what's going on and, especially, how might I resolve the cyrus one?


    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    By asking about each separate problem, on a separate thread each, on the
    appropriate forum here for each question. This is the chit-chat forum,
    so no problem solving here, just rambling ;-)
    OK, can do the first like:

    I'm a rambler I'm a gambler:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jThPNvPCfLg

    or be a rambling boy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHXOWAsNeJU

    So maybe sense of humour is still working. Will ask in the other threads if needed for the tech part.

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    Default Re: A rant and a plea for help

    On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 23:36:01 +0000, Jon Freeman wrote:

    >> but still I rant! And wonder about QC.


    QC is present. Just because you had problems doesn't mean there's no (or
    even lacking) quality control.

    Thousands of people install openSUSE and didn't have the issues you
    described.

    So rather than rant about a "QC problem", let's focus on the issues /you/
    are having (in the appropriate support forums) and resolve them.

    Jim

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    Jon_Freeman NNTP User

    Default Re: A rant and a plea for help

    OK. Apologies but having had 2 disastrous upgrades (one of which ened up in me installing a different distro) within a couple of weeks, I was at my wits end yesterday and really felt a need to vent...

    Today's another day... Cyrus is now working for the 3 of us (mine was OK but for some reason I had to recreate the passwords for 2 using saslpsswd2) and, pressure off me having to get my parents email working for them, I'll try to work more calmly through the rest.

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