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    Default update Suse11.0 to 11.3 on older laptop

    Hi all,

    unfortunately, I don't know much about Suse linux and thus would appreciate some help on the following problems:

    My laptop is a Medion MD 96970 (bought at Aldi in September 2008) with
    - graphic card nVidia GeForce 9300M G
    - processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5750 @ 2.00GHz
    - 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
    - 3GB RAM and 300 GB memory

    1) Originally, my laptop came with Windows Vista. Then I got a SUSE linux 11.0 CD, let it make a partition and installed Suse 11.0.
    Since Suse11.0 isn't updated any further I would like to change to Suse 11.3 (or whatever is newer). How should I proceed? (I can't find my old Windows Vista CDs and would like to KEEP THE PARTITION, thus formating all isn't an option)

    2) In order to make a backup I bought a portable hard drive from iomega (USB 2.0). Then I noticed that it is formated in NTFS. SUSE 11.0 doesn't seem to like it --- what should I do? Can I reformat it somehow?

    3) Suse 11.0 doesn't like my sound card. Thus I couldn't Skype or listen to music --- do you know if this problem is solved under Suse 11.3?

    Best & Thanks,

    Sonja

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    Smile Re: update Suse11.0 to 11.3 on older laptop

    So, running your old SUSE 11.0, why not run the following commands so we can tell you what we might advise. Open up a terminal session and type these commands:

    Code:
    cat /etc/fstab
    cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
    su -
    password:
    fdisk -l
    This would provide enough info to help. Basically, if you maintained a separate /home area, I might suggest a new install, on top of the old, but to not format your /home area. Else, I might suggest you select an upgrade, on top of your existing setup. There are some potential issues, but we most likely could get you through them. The information requested can be large. So, go into the Advanced message editor, highlight all of your text from the requested commands and press the code "#" button. It makes the text much easier to deal with and good luck.

    Thank You,


    Thank You,
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    Default Re: update Suse11.0 to 11.3 on older laptop

    Thanks for your reply, I get:

    hohloch@linux-86jj:~> cat /etc/fstab
    /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200BEVT-_WD-WXE508KH7107-part6 swap swap defaults 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200BEVT-_WD-WXE508KH7107-part3 / ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 1
    /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200BEVT-_WD-WXE508KH7107-part4 /home ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 2
    /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200BEVT-_WD-WXE508KH7107-part2 /windows/C ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=de_DE.UTF-8 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200BEVT-_WD-WXE508KH7107-part5 /windows/D vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0
    proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
    sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0
    debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto 0 0
    usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0
    devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0
    hohloch@linux-86jj:~>
    hohloch@linux-86jj:~> cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
    cat: /boot/grub/menu.lst: Keine Berechtigung
    hohloch@linux-86jj:~> su -
    Passwort:
    linux-86jj:~ # cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
    # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Mon Mar 8 12:12:49 CET 2010
    default 0
    timeout 8
    gfxmenu (hd0,2)/boot/message
    ##YaST - activate

    ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux###
    title openSUSE 11.0 - 2.6.25.20-0.7
    root (hd0,2)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25.20-0.7-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200BEVT-_WD-WXE508KH7107-part3 resume=/dev/sda6 splash=silent showopts vga=0x314
    initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.25.20-0.7-default

    ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe###
    title Failsafe -- openSUSE 11.0 - 2.6.25.20-0.7
    root (hd0,2)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25.20-0.7-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200BEVT-_WD-WXE508KH7107-part3 showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noresume edd=off x11failsafe vga=0x314
    initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.25.20-0.7-default

    ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows###
    title Windows
    rootnoverify (hd0,2)
    chainloader (hd0,1)+1
    linux-86jj:~ #

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    Default Re: update Suse11.0 to 11.3 on older laptop

    To check how your hardware works with openSUSE 11.3 you could use a liveCD from software.opensuse.org: Download openSUSE 11.3
    you can also use this for the backup, as it can read and write to NTFS, and you can install from it.
    Check the md5sum of the download matches the one at the above link, opening the file with k3b will show the md5sum.
    Also choose the option to check the installation media when you first boot the liveCD.

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    Smile Re: update Suse11.0 to 11.3 on older laptop

    The Line below from your fstab file tells me you could do a new install, keeping your old /home partition and manually telling the partitioner to not format it.

    Code:
    /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD3200BEVT-_WD-WXE508KH7107-part4 /home                ext3       acl,user_xattr        1 2
    The basic issue is if you understand enough to force openSUSE to use the very same partitions and to not create any new ones. It is the one thing that doing an upgrade does for you as it knows to keep the partitions the same. One thing, your Windows entry does not look correct, but I suppose it works in your menu.lst file. Here is what I think it should say:

    Code:
    ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows###
    title Windows
        rootnoverify (hd0,1)
        chainloader +1
    But you can work on this at a latter date. So, you gave us two of the commands, but not the fdisk -l, perhaps you were confused by the password line as you do not enter the word password, when you enter su -, the password prompt comes out for you were you must enter the root user password in order to run the fdisk -l command, why not try it again.

    Code:
    su -
    password:
    fdisk -l
    Thank You,
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    Default Re: update Suse11.0 to 11.3 on older laptop

    I would do a fresh install, upgrading from 11.0 to 11.3 is just too much in one step.
    To be safe (once you have completed your backup) just ensure the only partition formatted during install is the root partition '/'
    As James mentioned can we see fdisk -l (lower case letter l) Please use code tags ( the video in link also uses fdisk -l for the demo ).

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    Default Re: update Suse11.0 to 11.3 on older laptop

    Quote Originally Posted by sonja2011 View Post
    ....
    - 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
    ........
    3) Suse 11.0 doesn't like my sound card. Thus I couldn't Skype or listen to music --- do you know if this problem is solved under Suse 11.3?
    I suspect we can get sound working with no problem. Still, you could provide more information on the sound and we can confirm that. There is a diagnostic script that provides more information on sound that comes with every openSUSE release that has alsa-1.0.17 and newer. Unfortunately openSUSE-11.0 only came with alsa-1.0.16 and it does not have the script. But that is not a problem.

    With your PC connected to the Internet (and assuming wget is installed), download and execute the script with:
    Code:
    wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash alsa-info.sh
    Select the 'SHARE/UPLOAD' option.

    If you do not have wget installed, then 1st (before the above command) install it with:
    Code:
    su -c 'zypper in wget'
    and enter root password when prompted.

    After executing the "wget -O alsa-info.sh ..... etc ... " command above, that will give you a URL address. Please post that URL here.

    ... some clarification on running the script "alsa-info.sh" ... when you run:
    Code:
    /usr/sbin/alsa-info.sh
    you should get something like this (if it asks for an update, select NO):


    followed by this (select the SHARE/UPLOAD option):


    followed by this (its quickest if you simply select 'NO' to seeing the output - you will see it on the web page) :


    followed by this (where in RED is the URL).


    Just post the URL/webaddress you get (similar to the RED URL in my example, but yours will be different).

    With that web address/URL with the diagnostic information on your PC's sound we can give you an accurate sound assessment.

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    Default Re: update Suse11.0 to 11.3 on older laptop

    Thanks & Sorry for my late reply (lots of work...)

    I get:

    Code:
    hohloch@linux-86jj:~> su -
    Passwort:
    linux-86jj:~ # fdisk -l
    
    Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
    Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x19f509e3
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sda1           35954       38913    23776200    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
    /dev/sda2               1       14107   113306445    7  HPFS/NTFS
    /dev/sda3   *       14107       16718    20972826+  83  Linux
    /dev/sda4           16718       35953   154513169+  83  Linux
    /dev/sda5           35954       37823    15012742    b  W95 FAT32
    /dev/sda6           37823       38084     2104483+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
    
    Partition table entries are not in disk order
    
    Disk /dev/sdc: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
    Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x4e1d2746
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sdc1               1       38913   312568641    7  HPFS/NTFS
    
    Disk /dev/sdd: 8011 MB, 8011087872 bytes
    32 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7761 cylinders
    Units = cylinders of 2016 * 512 = 1032192 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x335d3b38
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sdd1               1        7761     7823056+   b  W95 FAT32
    
    Disk /dev/sde: 4005 MB, 4005560320 bytes
    16 heads, 32 sectors/track, 15280 cylinders
    Units = cylinders of 512 * 512 = 262144 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x00000000
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sde1               1       15280     3911664    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
    linux-86jj:~ #

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    Default Re: update Suse11.0 to 11.3 on older laptop

    Quote Originally Posted by dvhenry View Post
    To check how your hardware works with openSUSE 11.3 you could use a liveCD from software.opensuse.org: Download openSUSE 11.3
    you can also use this for the backup, as it can read and write to NTFS, and you can install from it.
    Check the md5sum of the download matches the one at the above link, opening the file with k3b will show the md5sum.
    Also choose the option to check the installation media when you first boot the liveCD.
    Sorry for the silly question, but how do I check the download with md5sum and k3b? (I am a complete Linux beginner... sorry!) Since my Suse11.0 is sometimes causing problems with burning CD's etc. --- can I also download and burn it with Windows? How do I know if I need the 32 bit or the 64 bit version?

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    Smile Re: update Suse11.0 to 11.3 on older laptop

    It looks like you are booting Linux from sda3 which is also the root / partition and your /home is sda4.

    Code:
    /dev/sda3   *       14107       16718    20972826+  83  Linux
    /dev/sda4           16718       35953   154513169+  83  Linux
    If you do an update, it should maintain your present setup as is. If you do a new install, you will need to go into custom partitioning and instruct the openSUSE Partitioner to mount sda3 as root / and format it and make sda4 your /home folder and to NOT format it. I expect you have generic boot code loaded into your MBR (Master Boot Record) and you are loading the grub boot loader into the sda3 root / partition, which is also marked bootable. If you are not comfortable with a custom partition setup where you abandon the suggested one, then try an update instead. Everything I have said here is important to understand so ask questions.

    Consider you can even start the installation, to see what is says/asks, just don't press that final button to install. You can pull the boot disk before then and reboot without a problem. However, if you proceed with the install, DO NOT STOP it then, but let it complete.

    Thank You,
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