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    Default Re: openoffice 3.2.1 impress ppt/pps import error

    Quote Originally Posted by vindevienne View Post
    It would appear that novell openoffice 3.2.1.4 on opensuse 11.3 fails to correctly import pps/ppt files.
    I tested 15 different pps presentations on a 64-bit openSUSE-11.3 KDE4, and I can confirm that your observation wrt 11.3 not working while 11.2 does work is accurate.

    I'm puzzling over this a bit, as I am certain I had at least one pps playing on my mother's 64-bit openSUSE-11.3 PC when I was visiting her place in November (as that was one of my tests). But I can't deny on my laptop (running a 64-bit openSUSE-11.3 KDE4) that not one of the 15 pps I tried, would play sound. I tried a brief tune of the audio backend (from using 'auto' to trying 'oss' ) and it made no difference (not that I expected it to, as I susect the problem is more along the lines of your assessment).

    If you point me to the bug report, I'll add my 2 cents as a user asking this be fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vindevienne View Post
    I have reported the problem on bugzilla but I expect a long wait before anybody even looks at the report. If I can get the openoffice.org version to work then the novell version goes and does not come back.
    Sometimes one gets better attention to a bug, if one raises the bug report on a developement openSUSE release.

    So along those lines I tested the various .pps presentations (that have audio) on an openSUSE-11.4 M5 install. Its an LXDE desktop, but that should not matter, as I installed LibreOffice-3.3 and all its dependencies. Audio also did not work there. If you point me to the bugzilla bug report you raised, I'll write a similar one on 11.4 M5 that LibreOffice-3.3. has problems with audio in pps files (and I will also reference your 11.3 bug report in what I write on 11.4 M5). I suspect that given LibreOffice is based on openOffice, that the problem could be the same. And I suspect such a bug report may get more attention if raised on LibreOffice on 11.4 M5.

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    Default Re: openoffice 3.2.1 impress ppt/pps import error

    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    Caf4926, I don't understand that post ?

    Was it to prove that that pps plays sound ? It does play sound on my openSUSE-11.3 with Impress.

    There are powerpoint slide presentations which do not play sound on openSUSE-11.3, but thats not one of them (as that one works).
    I uploaded the OP's file that was emailed to me.

    FYI: It doesn't work in my _64 SUSE 11.3 or Mint 10

    If I press Esc. to get out of full screen it crashes
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    I have now tried it in Mint 9_64 and it works as for the OP, that is:
    No sound in first slide, then all is OK

    But it still crashes out when I use Esc to exit full screen
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    I tested 15 different pps presentations on a 64-bit openSUSE-11.3 KDE4, and I can confirm that your observation wrt 11.3 not working while 11.2 does work is accurate.

    I'm puzzling over this a bit, as I am certain I had at least one pps playing on my mother's 64-bit openSUSE-11.3 PC when I was visiting her place in November (as that was one of my tests). But I can't deny on my laptop (running a 64-bit openSUSE-11.3 KDE4) that not one of the 15 pps I tried, would play sound. I tried a brief tune of the audio backend (from using 'auto' to trying 'oss' ) and it made no difference (not that I expected it to, as I susect the problem is more along the lines of your assessment).

    If you point me to the bug report, I'll add my 2 cents as a user asking this be fixed.
    The bug is https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=661421

    I am not very happy at the moment. I have spent about 40 hours trying to get something to work that worked in 11.1 I started with the sound config as sound does not really work as shipped in standard opensuse. With your help and the help of others my system can now play just about anything except these pps files. I have since spent two or three days investigating what openoffice is doing and comparing openoffice from opensuse and openoffice.org

    I come back to my point that sound in opensuse is too difficult. Because it does not work 'out of the box', I and everyone else assume that a sound problem is misconfigured/installed sound software. As a result you have to spend hours configuring and testing the sound subsystem prior to looking at anything else.

    I really don't like the openoffice.org JMF requirement. I can't see how it could work with a 64 bit jre and the installation is really nasty. I shall try FMJ and see if that is really a JMF replacement

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    I uploaded the OP's file that was emailed to me.

    FYI: It doesn't work in my _64 SUSE 11.3 or Mint 10

    If I press Esc. to get out of full screen it crashes
    I don't get any crashes just no sound

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    Quote Originally Posted by vindevienne View Post
    I don't get any crashes just no sound
    The plot thickens ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by vindevienne View Post
    I added my 2-cents to the bug report, and later this week I will also write one on 11.4 M5 LibreOffice.

    Quote Originally Posted by vindevienne View Post
    I am not very happy at the moment. I have spent about 40 hours trying to get something to work that worked in 11.1 I started with the sound config as sound does not really work as shipped in standard opensuse.
    I don't know if it will help, but I can relate to what you stated.

    I started using Linux in 1998 and from 1998 to 2004/2005 time frame, the stubborn streak in me would have me bang my head for hours against the wall to solve a problem. Any problem. Sometimes I succeeded and solved the problem. Often the only result was the blood on the wall, and me lying senseless (and fuming) on the floor.

    Around 2005 or so I joined the openSUSE forums and I changed my approach. From then on, when I had a problem, after a brief 15 minute to 30 minute effort of my stubborn "do it myself" streak failing (very very occasionially a couple of hours of time), I would stop banging my head, and instead post my problem on the forum and participate in the subsequent dialog.

    This got hard to do (post the problem) when I became a moderator, as for some reason users tend to think moderators should have the technical answers (when in fact often we don't .... BUT often we don't want to embarass ourselves on the forum with silly questions, so we tend to try on our own a lot 1st before posting a plea for help).

    Sometimes when I posted a problem the solution was passed to me right away. Other times there was a dialog where it took some time for those giving me support to prove to me what I was doing wrong (ie I stubbornly refused to accept what was a working solution ! ) . And other times there was a dialog where it took some time for me to prove to others there was indeed a problem.

    Often this post of my asking for help resulted in a fix. But sometimes it did not.

    But I can say my knowledge has increased much more from 2005 to 2010 (when participating in the forum), than it ever did with the stand alone head banging from 1998 to 2005.

    So if you can bear with our community not having an immediate answer to things that do not work, hopefully we can all work together to produce a solution, so that so many hours not need be wasted in the future.

    My apologies for my openSUSE-11.2 vs 11.3 mixup (and hence initial totally unwarrented skeptism). Sometimes I tend to forget that I have not updated my primary openSUSE PC to the latest openSUSE version.

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    I have tested openoffice 3.2.1 from openoffice.org with JMF on a 32 bit 11.2 system and it works
    Just wondering too,
    You mean you removed the openSUSE version and manually installed o.o from o.office.org?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    I added my 2-cents to the bug report, and later this week I will also write one on 11.4 M5 LibreOffice.



    I don't know if it will help, but I can relate to what you stated.

    I started using Linux in 1998 and from 1998 to 2004/2005 time frame, the stubborn streak in me would have me bang my head for hours against the wall to solve a problem. Any problem. Sometimes I succeeded and solved the problem. Often the only result was the blood on the wall, and me lying senseless (and fuming) on the floor.

    Around 2005 or so I joined the openSUSE forums and I changed my approach. From then on, when I had a problem, after a brief 15 minute to 30 minute effort of my stubborn "do it myself" streak failing (very very occasionially a couple of hours of time), I would stop banging my head, and instead post my problem on the forum and participate in the subsequent dialog.

    This got hard to do (post the problem) when I became a moderator, as for some reason users tend to think moderators should have the technical answers (when in fact often we don't .... BUT often we don't want to embarass ourselves on the forum with silly questions, so we tend to try on our own a lot 1st before posting a plea for help).

    Sometimes when I posted a problem the solution was passed to me right away. Other times there was a dialog where it took some time for those giving me support to prove to me what I was doing wrong (ie I stubbornly refused to accept what was a working solution ! ) . And other times there was a dialog where it took some time for me to prove to others there was indeed a problem.

    Often this post of my asking for help resulted in a fix. But sometimes it did not.

    But I can say my knowledge has increased much more from 2005 to 2010 (when participating in the forum), than it ever did with the stand alone head banging from 1998 to 2005.

    So if you can bear with our community not having an immediate answer to things that do not work, hopefully we can all work together to produce a solution, so that so many hours not need be wasted in the future.

    My apologies for my openSUSE-11.2 vs 11.3 mixup (and hence initial totally unwarrented skeptism). Sometimes I tend to forget that I have not updated my primary openSUSE PC to the latest openSUSE version.
    I have had lots of help. My point is that because of the way the sound subsystem is packaged, (or is not packaged), everyone has to spend a lot of time verifying that the sound system is correct before they can move on to a problem in any other package that may be using the sound system. I believe that there needs to be a better way of getting a working sound subsystem into opensuse

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