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    Default Re: KMail HTML email always removes empty lines when viewed in MSExchange Outlook

    On 2010-12-09 17:04, phanisvara wrote:
    > On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 17:20:06 +0530, Carlos E. R. <> wrote:



    > it obviously can; i guess it's a mind-thing: in my mind email==text.
    > perhaps i'll have to be a bit more open-minded in these things...


    Me too. I also use the forum via nntp.
    But sometimes I make exceptions. :-)

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    Default Re: KMail HTML email always removes empty lines when viewed in MSExchange Outlook

    On 2010-12-09 16:36, twelveeighty wrote:
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    > robin_listas;2263802 Wrote:


    (local imap)

    > This is a very interesting concept - since I really like KMail as a
    > mail reader, it just sucks for composing html email. And yes, there are
    > some cases where you have to use HTML in KMail, even for simple stuff
    > like sending a note with a hyperlink in it: if you send that in plain
    > text and link is too long, it gets word-wrapped and the link is broken.
    > If you use HTML, it works properly, since it creates an <a> element for
    > it.


    I have this problem here.
    I use the forum via the NNTP gateway. It is plain text only (AFAIK), and
    posting code without linewrapping is a pain, sometimes it does not work.

    Or links are not recognized as links and the blame me :-}


    > When using dovecot - do you pull all the incoming mail into dovecot
    > first and then you connect kmail and thunderbird to dovecot?


    My method, which is not the only one, is as you describe. I pull the email
    with fetchmail, distribute it locally into folders, with spam filtering in
    the way, and dovecot serves it to thunderbird or whatever I want. Of
    course, Thunderbird can also look for email at the ISP, via imap; pop3
    accounts I disable.

    It would also be possible to fetch the email with Th or Kmail, and use its
    filtering system to distribute that email to folders served by dovecot -
    remember that imap is R/W.


    My setup is:

    fetchmail
    |
    postfix <--> amavis-new
    |
    procmail <--> spamd <--> spamc
    |\
    | \
    local storage

    Dovecot reads the folders in that local storage, and serves it locally
    (thunderbird, alpine), or via local network to laptop.


    I wrote the details of the dovecot part here:

    Newsgroups: opensuse.org.help.applications
    Subject: Re: Need a mail program...
    Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 21:32:20 GMT




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    Default Re: KMail HTML email always removes empty lines when viewed in MSExchange Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    Dovecot reads the folders in that local storage, and serves it locally
    (thunderbird, alpine), or via local network to laptop.
    Thanks for the description - it's an interesting concept. I may try this out over the Xmas holidays here.
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    Default Re: KMail HTML email always removes empty lines when viewed in MSExchange Outlook

    On 2010-12-10 05:36, twelveeighty wrote:

    > Thanks for the description - it's an interesting concept. I may try
    > this out over the Xmas holidays here.


    It is indeed. I set it up recently, and I'm glad I did.

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    Default Re: KMail HTML email always removes empty lines when viewed in MS Exchange Outlook

    On 2010-12-09, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
    > On 2010-12-09 12:22, phanisvara wrote:
    >> i understand the need to _read_ HTML email, but not why it should be
    >> necessary to send them. or is it that business contacts won't take you
    >> seriously unless you also send out styled and formatted stuff?

    >
    > I have to send tables with numbers. Nothing complex, just tabulated data.
    > Sometimes I have to add images in context. This can be sent easily as html.
    > Yes, also as an attached file, pdf, word(!), etc. But html exists, it is an
    > standard (abused), so why not use it?
    >
    > The people that dislike it, say that it has dangers, well, then develop
    > another format for emails that allows formatting, and get it widely
    > supported in all operating systems.


    I don't consider it dangerous, but I do see it as a crappy format for the
    creation of formatted documents. Not that I do much of those, but when I do,
    I want the document to have a fixed and relyable layout. Html can be
    rendered differently in different browsers.
    Another objection is that such a document is not a document, but a
    collection of elements (images in jpg files, for one). Your destination has
    to copy-paste the document to recover as anything but a mail.

    I'd do a PDF in attachment. Reliable layout, one file, only 1 viewer needed.



    > Ghosh! This is a forum. Forums are more popular than nntp or mail lists.
    > They are html, you can attach photos, fonts, whatever. People like and use
    > it, I see no complains. Why on earth can't email have those nice features, too?

    People like it, because they want to do anything and everything with a
    browser. That's the MS way of doing things, and the 'enrichment' of that
    tool leeds to opening the doors to all kind of nasty.
    This 'forum' is also read and written by lots of people in NNTP, without
    much problems.



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