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    Default KDE Install for a Separate user. Any instuctions?

    I don't want to dual boot, but I would like to log in as another user and run upstream KDE.
    I want to install using Yast.
    When I start Yast of course It runs as root so whatever repo changes I make will be global, so...
    I need to know how to separate the two users and Yast settings.
    I am using a LVM setup with /boot /root and /home partitions.

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    Default Re: KDE Install for a Separate user. Any instuctions?

    AFAIK you cannot do what you want without virtualising or dual-booting the second system because KDE assumes a single set of libraries for all users even though each user may have different settings.

    A rather draconian solution would be to revert to KDE3 for your production system and upgrade your existing KDE4 system to FACTORY because openSUSE allows this option. This would achieve what you want without dual booting or virtualising but would it interfere with your normal computer use?
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    Default Re: KDE Install for a Separate user. Any instuctions?

    I guess I thought that may be the case. It would be interesting if it could be done though.
    It is possible to use a Gnome user and KDE user in tandem, I think, but that would make sense due to the fact that they would be only depending on the same version numbers in the root libs.
    Just pondering.

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    Default Re: KDE Install for a Separate user. Any instuctions?

    yes, you could run Gnome (or KDE3, LXDE, XFCE, etc etc etc) as your
    production system and log in as another user to run whatever "upstream
    KDE" you wish..

    actually, you could do that with the same user, but why risk real data
    to the flaky KDE?

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    Default Re: KDE Install for a Separate user. Any instuctions?

    It's not possible, since packages are not installed user-wise. All users use the same packages. With some tricks it is possible to install different versions of some single packages, but not something as complex as a desktop environment made out of tons of different packages, apps, libs etc.

    Edit: Oops, did I get ConfederacyOfDunces' intention wrong? I thought this was about different users running different versions of KDE4. As DenverD mentioned, of course it is possible to run whatever number of desktop environments / window managers on one system.

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    You're right that is what I was thinking.
    I feel like I remember doing an experimental upgrade at one time a long time ago..
    ..I remember I broke everything somehow, but I also remember being able to choose two different versions of KDE from the login screen. I think It was a fluke. I think, also it may have been in the days of KDE 3 something and moving to KDE 4 something.
    Like I said, it was a while ago and I confused myself to the point where I just did a fresh install anyway.
    But, my impression is that if I tried to do 4.4.4 and 4.5, for instance, I would probably end up with too many conflicting versions to be able to run either one correctly.

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    Default Re: KDE Install for a Separate user. Any instuctions?

    On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 05:06:03 +0530, ConfederacyOfDunces
    <ConfederacyOfDunces@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    >
    > You're right that is what I was thinking.
    > I feel like I remember doing an experimental upgrade at one time a long
    > time ago..
    > .I remember I broke everything somehow, but I also remember being able
    > to choose two different versions of KDE from the login screen. I think
    > It was a fluke. I think, also it may have been in the days of KDE 3
    > something and moving to KDE 4 something.
    > Like I said, it was a while ago and I confused myself to the point
    > where I just did a fresh install anyway.
    > But, my impression is that if I tried to do 4.4.4 and 4.5, for
    > instance, I would probably end up with too many conflicting versions to
    > be able to run either one correctly.
    >
    >


    this was (is) possible with KDE 3 & KDE 4, since both use different names
    for their packages. i read somewhere that soon (openSUSE 11.4) it will be
    possible again to install KDE 4 stable & KDE 4 trunk in parallel, using
    the same approach. (you'll have to check the KDE developer or user mailing
    lists; that's where i think i read this.) at the moment you'd have to
    compile the latest version of KDE yourself, using different prefixes, in
    order to be able to run two versions of KDE 4 at the same time. this is
    described somewhere in the KDE developer help / tutorials.

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